I hope they use a bit more of Gustavo Santaolalla's music from the game. If I recall correctly, every piece of music in the game was from the original score he wrote. And of all the things that can be reused for the show, it's the game score.
A few of my own thoughts after finally catching up (and coughing up the money for Crave).
- Pedro is excellent as Joel. If I'm splitting hairs, I wish they'd thicken up his beard a bit and he'd be a perfect match.
- Bella as Ellie was really good. I kinda felt like something was missing thru the first three episodes, and I finally figured it out. There's nothing missing, but Ashley Johnson just did such an amazing and iconic portrayal of Ellie and Bella's performance is just different. It would be like if someone tried to play Gandalf after Ian Mckellan absolutely owned the character. They might do great, but they'll never be Ian.
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- I wouldn't write of air-borne spores in the show yet. Remember that in the game air-borne spores only happened SOMETIMES. I think the conditions need to be right and the show runners are keeping it in their back pocket to move the story forward later on.
- Loved the Jakarta story and the scientist was awesome. "I've studied this my whole life, so listen carefully to what I say"
- Offerman and Bartlett's acting was sublime in S1E3. I didn't know Offerman was in the show, so when he was introduced as Bill I was like whaaaaa. But delighted.
- They moved a ladder! (Ladder Moving Simulator meme)
- The deviation from the game was a bit jarring. I kept expecting the worst to happen and it didn't. There was an important lesson for Joel at the end of it, but the show went about teaching the lesson in a WAYYYY different way than the game. It was obviously really well done but I was really excited for an action packed episode, and so felt a bit disappointed that all we got was 3-4 humans lit on fire. Plus, there was supposed to be a lot of interaction between Bill, Joel and Ellie.
- Offerman was an extreme doomsday prepper. He thought of everything, including how to rebuild a battery. The more unrealistic thing is that his generator lasting 20 years. Also, suspend your belief a little bit for crying out loud. It's a zombie show.
- Joel still doesn't trust Ellie. It takes a long time, thats why he doesn't let her have a gun.
Overall I am freaking thrilled with this show, and I will immediately play the game after the season.
- The deviation from the game was a bit jarring. I kept expecting the worst to happen and it didn't. There was an important lesson for Joel at the end of it, but the show went about teaching the lesson in a WAYYYY different way than the game. It was obviously really well done but I was really excited for an action packed episode, and so felt a bit disappointed that all we got was 3-4 humans lit on fire. Plus, there was supposed to be a lot of interaction between Bill, Joel and Ellie.
My head-cannon is that there was a single moment that split the game universe from the show universe for EP3, and that's when Frank tells Bill that he traded a gun for some strawberry seeds. In the game I imagine that Bill flips out and they have a huge fight that continues to fester until Frank finally leaves, but in the show Frank simply says "It was a small one" and we get to enjoy Nick Offerman giggling while eating strawberries
My head-cannon is that there was a single moment that split the game universe from the show universe for EP3, and that's when Frank tells Bill that he traded a gun for some strawberry seeds. In the game I imagine that Bill flips out and they have a huge fight that continues to fester until Frank finally leaves, but in the show Frank simply says "It was a small one" and we get to enjoy Nick Offerman giggling while eating strawberries
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I mean for starters you had to break into the town, fight off a zillion zombies and navigate all of Bill's traps. In the show, Pedro just punches in the code at the front gate lol.
The latest “this is why we can’t have nice things” story in media is that sadly, expectedly, we still live in an era where one of the best episodes of television in recent memory can end up being review bombed because of simple homophobia.
The unequivocal quality of the episode has not stopped trolls from going after it on IMDB, where 30,468 people have given it 1 star reviews, creating a familiar “review bomb split” where a hugely disproportionate number of 1 stars, 28.4% of reviews in this case. By contrast, the first two episodes had 1.4% and 1.6% 1 star reviews instead. Those episodes have an average of 9.2/10, while Long, Long Time is a 7.9/10, far lower. Overall, The Last of Us is still a 9.3/10, one of the highest rated TV series on IMDB overall.
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My head-cannon is that there was a single moment that split the game universe from the show universe for EP3, and that's when Frank tells Bill that he traded a gun for some strawberry seeds. In the game I imagine that Bill flips out and they have a huge fight that continues to fester until Frank finally leaves, but in the show Frank simply says "It was a small one" and we get to enjoy Nick Offerman giggling while eating strawberries
Lol. I found this pretty unrealistic. Strawberry seeds are not especially tough to acquire. Each strawberry produces many of them, and they grow like weeds. A decade later, they'd be all over that little town. Once you get them going, they'll take over a whole garden.
- One thing TWD did really well was training the characters to use firearms early on, as it makes total sense. This whole "no guns for Elle" thing is really lame and makes no sense whatsoever. Someone that has never even touched a gun before can get instruction in a couple hours on how to be safe with a gun.
Others already covered your other two concerns, but I don't think anyone addressed this.
For one thing, Joel isn't a particularly trusting person 20 years into the apocalypse, so he isn't ready to just hand someone he just met a weapon.
Second, in TWD, we pick the story up right at the start of the outbreak, so ammunition is very common and easy to find. It makes sense to spend ammo to train your people. Twenty years after all mass manufacturing has ended, ammunition is going to be a lot harder to come by. Sure, some people are probably reloading shell casings and someone, somewhere, might be manufacturing ammunition again, but it's not going to be plentiful like it is at the start of TWD. We see an example of this at the start of episode 3 where Joel leaves behind a weapon because he doesn't have enough ammo for it to be useful. So why give an untrained person a weapon that they have no training on, who would likely just waste your limited remaining ammunition?
In the game, on higher difficulties, bullets were incredibly rare. You basically had to play the game with sneaking, distractions, occasional sneak attacks with melee weapons, and only very rarely did you ever fire a gun due to the rarity of ammunition.
Lol. I found this pretty unrealistic. Strawberry seeds are not especially tough to acquire. Each strawberry produces many of them, and they grow like weeds. A decade later, they'd be all over that little town. Once you get them going, they'll take over a whole garden.
It was overall a pretty great scene though.
The point is that it doesn't matter what's tough to acquire. Frank doesn't operate that way. It doesn't matter if objectively he got a bad deal, they got far more out of those strawberries just in that one scene than a gun was ever going to be worth to them, particularly given how many guns Bill has.
That said - *pushes up glasses * - Hemi-Cuda's head canon is still wrong because in the game Joel and Tess had no idea who Frank even was and never met him, which is of course contradicted well before that strawberry scene in the show. SO THERE.
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Others already covered your other two concerns, but I don't think anyone addressed this.
For one thing, Joel isn't a particularly trusting person 20 years into the apocalypse, so he isn't ready to just hand someone he just met a weapon.
Also, if he gives her a gun, she might try to shoot someone with it, and in an encounter with other people with guns, that would lead to them shooting at her instead of just him (i.e., the only threat to them who is shooting at them). So it's a bit of a protective measure. If she doesn't have a gun she can't help and the best thing she can do is get behind cover.
Anyway, IMDB should just delete all the 1* reviews, because the resulting outrage would be funny.
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I mean for starters you had to break into the town, fight off a zillion zombies and navigate all of Bill's traps. In the show, Pedro just punches in the code at the front gate lol.
Isn't the movie universe and game universe parallel universes though? There's enough similarities of the basic universe but significant discrepancies in the parallel universes that it can add to a character background, but also have plot holes disregarded for the parallel universes, no?
For instance, the TLOU game is supposed to take place in 2033.
The TLOU movie universe is stating it's taking place in 2023.
I'm not sure this is a spoiler, but the barter deal that is being complained for the strawberry seeds could make sense based on the game information. In the game, all we know is that Bill owes Joel a ton of favors. The movie universe could have had an early trade in for favors of some sort.
This design is actually clever. They can add, obtain and subtract to both universes as much as they want. If they mess up, they can claim parallel universe. They can stay faithful to the origins, but they can modify it to their needs as the show progresses. In that sense, it's almost like this is a remake of the story, not a pure remaster of the story.
I need to catch up, but this is my understanding of the two universes and why they differ at times.
Was anyone else wondering how far they'd zoom out on that ending shot with the open bedroom window?
It was doubtful they would of shown any gore because of the style of episode it was, but with each millimeter it was zooming out, I was truly wondering when it would stop.
"They aren't going to show anything..... are they???!!!"
I was seriously thinking, "Oh crap, it's gonna show the mushroom head of Frank as a clicker...."
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I understand and know that there will certainly be divergence from the source. Nobody (well, almost nobody) wants to watch Pedro Pascal move ladders for 28 straight minutes.
I was just expecting S1E3 to be an action-packed zombie genocide, and then we got a very different story, albeit incredibly well told and acted. I felt like I didn't get to enjoy the story arc as much as I should have because I kept expecting something different. E4 might be action packed, but it also might be devoted to travel and the growth of Joel & Ellie's relationship.
I'm actually really happy that there's differences, as long as the source material is respected. If I want to watch the game version, I'll just fire up my Playstation ... a carbon copy would be pretty redundant. Especially since Troy Baker, Ashley Johnson and the others already did such a phenomenal job in the game.
I like the differences too because now when I play the remake when it comes out on PC in a few weeks, it'll make that experience feel that much fresher
- Loved the Jakarta story and the scientist was awesome. "I've studied this my whole life, so listen carefully to what I say"
An episode or two focused entirely around the Jakarta breakout would be great.
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Lol. I found this pretty unrealistic. Strawberry seeds are not especially tough to acquire. Each strawberry produces many of them, and they grow like weeds. A decade later, they'd be all over that little town. Once you get them going, they'll take over a whole garden.
It was overall a pretty great scene though.
Wouldn't there have been strawberry seeds in the home depot garden centre?
It would been pretty cool see him reno his whole house with full access to the depot! lol
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- Offerman was an extreme doomsday prepper. He thought of everything, including how to rebuild a battery. The more unrealistic thing is that his generator lasting 20 years. Also, suspend your belief a little bit for crying out loud. It's a zombie show.
I thought the most unrealistic thing was that he just turned a valve on the natural gas plant and all of a sudden he had electricity and gas for his stove.
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