[News] CSEC and City of Calgary agree to restart formal discussions on new arena

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

That's not how polluter pays legislation works in Alberta though. Think Lynview Ridge, that land was sold multiple times and the liability still fell back to Imperial.

The AER excuse about Domtar not being in Alberta anymore has to be total BS.

Someone posted about a deal between the government and Domtar that is not public. Sounds super shady but would kind of explain it. Not sure how you would keep that quiet though.

Not really an apples to apples case. The land could have been sold to the city with the caveat that liability for remediation goes with it. If that were to happen I imagine the city had a good handle on the rem/rec costs.

I believe at lynview contamination wasn’t known when the housing development went on.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Danielle Smith knows what it takes to calm and appease the peasants.

Also what her corporate overlords want her to deliver

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Torture

Also what her corporate overlords want her to deliver

Probably better ideas than Notley's union buddies made up of teachers and janitors.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Slava

It's gonna blow your socks off!

We're not going to just get something out there, we're going to make sure it's ready and fully thought out. (or something like that I can't remember what he said exactly)
*proceeds to roll out ####ty rendering*

[Flames0910]

I'm kind of skeptical of Danielle's ability to push this through even if she wanted to. More likely she wants to make noise about it and use it as a wedge to draw in a few extra voters in battleground Calgary. And so far we're all talking about it so... mission accomplished?

Please please please don't vote Danielle Smith in just so we can give more money to Murray Edwards for an arena.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

I'm kind of skeptical of Danielle's ability to push this through even if she wanted to. More likely she wants to make noise about it and use it as a wedge to draw in a few extra voters in battleground Calgary. And so far we're all talking about it so... mission accomplished?

Please please please don't vote Danielle Smith in just so we can give more money to Murray Edwards for an arena.

I'll vote Danielle Smith in not to give more money to Murray Edwards, I'll vote Smith in so we can get a new arena and at the same time, I do not want Notely in.

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I'll vote Danielle Smith in not to give more money to Murray Edwards, I'll vote Smith in so we can get a new arena and at the same time, I do not want Notely in.

And here folks, is why Calgary voters are gonna ruin this province for the rest of Alberta

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

And here folks, is why Calgary voters are gonna ruin this province for the rest of Alberta

Voters in Edmonton have ruin Alberta the last time around.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Voters in Edmonton have ruin Alberta the last time around.

Please expand.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

Probably better ideas than Notley's union buddies made up of teachers and janitors.

I never understand people who belittle teachers. You're also an a-hole for belittling janitors, who probably work harder than you, but teachers definitely do. And a fair few of them are most certainly smarter than you.

But on the face why I hate this argument the most is that it's totally intellectually stupid. So, you would trust someone to hang around and mentor your kid for the majority of your child's waking life, yet you would also put that same person in the lowest tier of society and treat them like they're deplorables? The same people you trust with your kid?

####ing idiotic.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Please expand.

I guess they gifted Katz a free arena and set a bad precedence for every other city.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I never understand people who belittle teachers. You're also an a-hole for belittling janitors, who probably work harder than you, but teachers definitely do. And a fair few of them are most certainly smarter than you.

But on the face why I hate this argument the most is that it's totally intellectually stupid. So, you would trust someone to hang around and mentor your kid for the majority of your child's waking life, yet you would also put that same person in the lowest tier of society and treat them like they're deplorables? The same people you trust with your kid?

####ing idiotic.

Yeah, I am not a big fan of unions but I have big gratitude for teachers and janitors.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Well it's not going to work out with GoneDack with her 10 votes on council!

Thanks Jody...

Do you think you're being funny by intentionally misspelling Jyoti Gondek's name? Schticks like this and continuously misrepresenting what the City of Calgary has done on this project vs what CSEC has done makes you sound like a moron.

Grow up.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Locke

If someone gave me a cheque and a framework I could probably at least bang out some sort of rough concept over a weekend that wouldnt look like Homer Simpson's 'Car of the Future.'

Would love to see this. As an experienced architect, you should do it!

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I never understand people who belittle teachers. You're also an a-hole for belittling janitors, who probably work harder than you, but teachers definitely do. And a fair few of them are most certainly smarter than you.

But on the face why I hate this argument the most is that it's totally intellectually stupid. So, you would trust someone to hang around and mentor your kid for the majority of your child's waking life, yet you would also put that same person in the lowest tier of society and treat them like they're deplorables? The same people you trust with your kid?

####ing idiotic.

Not belittling teachers as teachers. As people who run a business they should have no say. I will trust people who have run a business for 20-30 years and understand the ins and outs of profit/loss and government regulations. Also from seeing where Canada's rankings are going in regards to STEM maybe we need to refocus the curriculum.

####ing idiotic!!!!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Muta

Would love to see this. As an experienced architect, you should do it!

[butterfly]

I don't live in Alberta so can someone please explain why this is a thing? Did the Oilers pay for their arena outright and the Flames are begging the city and province for help?

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I don't live in Alberta so can someone please explain why this is a thing? Did the Oilers pay for their arena outright and the Flames are begging the city and province for help?

The OEG ended up paying very little, after accounting for the rent that the city is paying to OEG for office space that was part of the deal.

The city paid for a chunk of it with provincial MSI money, money that’s intend led to pay for city infrastructure, not be given to private business.

The province did not give any money directly.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

Not belittling teachers as teachers. As people who run a business they should have no say. I will trust people who have run a business for 20-30 years and understand the ins and outs of profit/loss and government regulations. Also from seeing where Canada's rankings are going in regards to STEM maybe we need to refocus the curriculum.

####ing idiotic!!!!

Like experienced businesspeople Danielle Smith or Jason Kenney.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I'll vote Danielle Smith in not to give more money to Murray Edwards, I'll vote Smith in so we can get a new arena and at the same time, I do not want Notely in.

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Voters in Edmonton have ruin Alberta the last time around.