[PGT] Flames lose 5-4 in OT to the Rangers

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you must not watch a lot of hockey because they count those all the time...see Tampa against the Flames a few games back

the Coleman goal not counting was the anomaly

gifted a point is beyond ridiculous...especially since the Rangers tied it on a bad call, they made the Flames put the wrong players on the ice to top it off

Who are you responding to with this? Who must not watch a lot of hockey?

[Goriders]

So if you take current points and take into account home and away games left plus win % for both the final standings would look like:

Dallas 107 central 1
Seattle 106 pacific 1
Winnipeg 103 central 2
Vegas 103 pacific 2
Edm 99 pacific 3
LA 98 WC1
Minn 97 central 3
Colorado 97 WC2
Flames 93 out
Nashville 93 out

So 96 or 97 points is probably the benchmark to get in. Which means the Flames have to win at least 19 of the remaining 31 games. Potentially 20. Tall order.

Or someone really has to fall apart down the stretch. Like Vegas. Which is happening.

I think it will be decided in the last week. But the Flames have to stop shooting themselves in the foot.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Who are you responding to with this? Who must not watch a lot of hockey?

the guy who said this obviously
"Mangiapane goal doesn’t count 9/10 times"


then you said I don't watch hockey because they don't count those all the time...then I proved you wrong

/debate

[All In Good Time]

Come on folks
You’re falling for it again
Aaron and Bubbsy are sitting in their mothers basement right next door laughing madly as they sip their grape crush through their strawberry twizzlers cause they got you to bite.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Goriders

So if you take current points and take into account home and away games left plus win % for both the final standings would look like:

Dallas 107 central 1
Seattle 106 pacific 1
Winnipeg 103 central 2
Vegas 103 pacific 2
Edm 99 pacific 3
LA 98 WC1
Minn 97 central 3
Colorado 97 WC2
Flames 93 out
Nashville 93 out

So 96 or 97 points is probably the benchmark to get in. Which means the Flames have to win at least 19 of the remaining 31 games. Potentially 20. Tall order.

Or someone really has to fall apart down the stretch. Like Vegas. Which is happening.

I think it will be decided in the last week. But the Flames have to stop shooting themselves in the foot.

Minny isn't getting 97 points IMO

there are also more head to heads down the stretch with divisional teams...somebody losses

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Naitix

There some defensive gaffs but those I am not concerned about, they usually play way better defensively. My biggest issue was with Markstrom, he made great saves and all of the goals were hard to save but he was shakey and gave up rebounds on easy shots all night, creating chaos for no reason.

My biggest concern with this team is the offence, and that got going today. Goaltending can be fixed with Vladar or Wolf

Markstrom was arguably the team's best player tonight.

Breakaway. 2 on 1. Players left all alone in front. Giveaways. The defensive play wears the goat horns tonight, along with some of the team's supposed 'best' players either having a quiet night (Huberdeau) or being downright awful (Kadri). Clean up a bunch of terrible defensive plays (Backlund very rarely has brain cramps defensively like he did on the tying goal) and Markstrom gets a very deserving victory. He continues to play like tonight and he's not a concern at all.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

the guy who said this obviously
"Mangiapane goal doesn’t count 9/10 times"


then you said I don't watch hockey because they don't count those all the time...then I proved you wrong

/debate

Fair enough, I am not sure if Bubbsy watches much hockey. But I retract my condescending statement and relinquish such statements to your purview only.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I recall Bubbsy was consistently a finalist in the WoS

Noticed his posting ways have persisted into this season

Very neggy nellie poster who condemns players and writes off the team frequently, but evidently loves coming back for another serving of misery despite dumping on them

Not sure who this Aaron guy is, but bubbsy's burner account isn't out of the question.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Minny isn't getting 97 points IMO

there are also more head to heads down the stretch with divisional teams...somebody losses

We’ll see. It’s just math.

Either way though. The Flames are almost at the point of having to win 2 out of 3. Which is pretty hard in this league.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Fair enough, I am not sure if Bubbsy watches much hockey. But I retract my condescending statement and relinquish such statements to your purview only.

I only even replied to him because he said the Refs gifted the Flames a point which is well...I would probably be banned if I really said how dumb that was

[jayswin]

I'll preface this by saying I am not posting this as an excuse for the Flames struggles to build a contender, but man is geography frustrating.

The Rangers announced a rebuild a few years ago and after that they received Trouba, Panarin and Fox - an elite forward, elite D-man and really great D-man, due to simply playing in New York City. I mean most teams could tank for 6 years and not receive the level of talent that basically walked through their front door and said "Hey, can I play for you guys?".

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Goriders

We’ll see. It’s just math.

Either way though. The Flames are almost at the point of having to win 2 out of 3. Which is pretty hard in this league.

It is possible though (to win 2/3) and the Flames have been in this position before where they had to play .667 hockey with 30 games or so to get into the playoffs during the Brent Sutter years. They could still pull it off.

[NewFan]

Huberdeau has great vision and very good passer. That's I can see.
But he is so bad at all other areas. Not good forechecker, can't win battle, can't win race, can't clear the zone, can't screen, can't tip or deflect the puck.
If he were good in all these areas but has less points I would think he is still adjusting and he will get better. But I can't see him at this point.
If he was rookie I wouldn't expect him become a $10.5 million player for us.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Goriders

We’ll see. It’s just math.

Either way though. The Flames are almost at the point of having to win 2 out of 3. Which is pretty hard in this league.

We will see

Minny and Calgary are tied...they just lost to the Yotes. Flames play them 2 times I think.

LA is pretty far up but have played a lot of games
Vegas without Stone

Flames need to get their points but this idea that every singled team is gonna to play that well down the stretch is extremely unlikely. Especially when they play each other.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by AC

Huberdeau with 15:20 of icetime and I legitimately only remember him making 2 braindead plays on the PP.

What a lemon he's been.

8 more years

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by chedder

I think we need to see Huberdeau without Sutter before we give him away in a desperation trade.

There's just no way that a guy that is more than a point per game in the last 5 seasons just forgets how to play.

I don't like using the coach as an excuse but it's not like anyone individually or the team as a whole is doing anything remotely special under Sutter's leadership.

I get it and I want it to work but I bet I know who doesn't play up to their new contract. Its Horvat. It will happen.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I'll preface this by saying I am not posting this as an excuse for the Flames struggles to build a contender, but man is geography frustrating.

The Rangers announced a rebuild a few years ago and after that they received Trouba, Panarin and Fox - an elite forward, elite D-man and really great D-man, due to simply playing in New York City.

Yeah. For New York, they can just announce a rebuild and wait for all available talent to flood in

By far the easiest GMing job in the league

[old-fart]

That loss is entirely on Kadri. Gives the puck away for a breakaway and is horrible in OT. Useless tonight.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I actually thought the Mangiapane goal was fine. It didn't look 100% like a distinct kicking motion, although I can see why some people would think it was close. Call on the ice stood since it wasn't conclusive enough.

I first thought it was a pretty good kick. But then I see how the kicking motion was all before the puck hit his skate.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by mdubz

8 more years

8.5!

This one isnt over yet!