The number one seed in the west in 2018/2019 was a pushover.
If Seattle locks up #1 they'll be more vulnerable than that team was. by a narrow margin, mind you
I think that 18/19 team fares better against most other opponents. Hell of an 8th seed to line up that year.. they were coached to being the Flames' Achilles heel perfectly
This must be the first hockey game you have ever watched if you think they count those all the time. I never said they were gifted a point, I said the Mangiapane call was a bad call IMO.
Bubbsy said the refs gifted them a point...maybe look at the conversation you are entering before attacking me
WAAAAY more of a kick
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This must be the first hockey game you have ever watched if you think they count those all the time. I never said they were gifted a point, I said the Mangiapane call was a bad call IMO.
Long time forum members accusing long time forum members of not watching hockey will never get old to me.
This place is literally a hockey watching echo chamber to anyone outside so it’s such a mind boggling accusation
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I actually thought the Mangiapane goal was fine. It didn't look 100% like a distinct kicking motion, although I can see why some people would think it was close. Call on the ice stood since it wasn't conclusive enough.
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This must be the first hockey game you have ever watched if you think they count those all the time. I never said they were gifted a point, I said the Mangiapane call was a bad call IMO.
The mangiapane goal was called correctly
There are kicks and there are deflections off the skates of guys going to the net
This was the latter
The puck struck mangis skate with enough force that 0% of its going into the net was due to a kicking motion
He may have angled it to go that way, but that's all he did
Remember, it's "distinct" kicking motion
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The Huberdeau situation is baffling. Different system and different brand of hockey compared to the east and Florida but the cliff he's dropped off of is so large its hard to understand. He legit looks like a checker out there. I think management needs to reassess in the offseason, see what they can do to at least get him back to grasp of what he was in Florida, take a deep dive into what he needs on his line and go out and see if they can find it. Blindly adding at the deadline and trading away key assets terrifies me. This team isn't close to true cup contention.
There are kicks and there are deflections off the skates of guys going to the net
This was the latter
The puck struck mangis skate with enough force that 0% of its going into the net was due to a kicking motion
He may have angled it to go that way, but that's all he did
Remember, it's "distinct" kicking motion
Yup, angling the skate blade on purpose to control the deflection is fine. It just seems like the league is really inconsistent with this. I've seen goals like that called back and it seems like they are getting more conservative with the rule lately. They called it right, but I was surprised they did.
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Because the team no longer makes sense to me. Lucic has one purpose on this team, he got rag dolled, his teammates got rag dolled, yet he didn’t throw a single hit. He got promoted with more mins for it.
There is no identity. I seriously thought sutter was being sarcastic by throwing Lucic out there more.
And this make you want the team to lose? Be mad at the coach but being happy that the team you supposedly cheer for lost is just beyond my comprehension.
Meh I disagree with most of you. Forwards looked great and our offence looked dangerous against a really good team, probably best it had looked in awhile. There were a lot fanning in important moments in the first which leads to turnovers, just some rust from the break. Pelletier looked phenomenal once again, had at least 5 times where he created a play from his forecheck. Huberdeau also looked better at 5 on 5 than he did most of the season. I already like these powerplay lines more than the old ones.
There some defensive gaffs but those I am not concerned about, they usually play way better defensively. My biggest issue was with Markstrom, he made great saves and all of the goals were hard to save but he was shakey and gave up rebounds on easy shots all night, creating chaos for no reason.
My biggest concern with this team is the offence, and that got going today. Goaltending can be fixed with Vladar or Wolf
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This must be the first hockey game you have ever watched if you think they count those all the time. I never said they were gifted a point, I said the Mangiapane call was a bad call IMO.
I can post about 20 of these so yes, yes they do count them all the time
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Yup, angling the skate blade on purpose to control the deflection is fine. It just seems like the league is really inconsistent with this. I've seen goals like that called back and it seems like they are getting more conservative with the rule lately. They called it right, but I was surprised they did.
I'm surprised they got it right when it's us. I was totally prepared that they day it's no goal not because it's kicked in, just because it's us, the Flames.
Kick or not, the Coleman one was bologna because it was already sliding in and no one, including Mike Smith in matrix bullet time, was stopping it
Bumping it along the way with what could be just as much interpreted as a stride (of a guy landing on the ice after leaping over smith's pad) as a kick should mean #### all in that circumstance
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My point was they count that or worse all the time...the Coleman one is the anomaly
I assumed you watched Flames games...Tampa kicked in the 2nd goal against the Flames a few games back.
Anyway this whole thing started because someone said the refs "gifted the Flames a point" which is beyond laughable but you had to jump in
Sorry for responding to your point that those goals count all the time. I did not know that that was obiter dictum to some other more important point. Will avoid jumping in on an obvious hyperbolic statement in the future when a more important point is at stake like whether the Flames were gifted a point.
Sorry for responding to your point that those goals count all the time. I did not know that that was obiter dictum to some other more important point. Will avoid jumping in on an obvious hyperbolic statement in the future when a more important point is at stake like whether the Flames were gifted a point.
You literally said I don't watch hockey if I think those count all the time...now proven wrong you come with condescending garbage as usual
Maybe Huberdeau is a player who only does well in fire wagon style hockey. It could be something as simple as that. Regardless of the reason, having him at an elite level would do wonders for this team.
I definitely think he needs a longer leash, but man, if he only thrives in a run & gun environment, what would you call tonight?
Honestly, I think Huberdeau might have been a product of either his division or his linemates. He throws passes into no man's land, for an 'elite passer' the majority of his passes suck.
Overall I thought Markstrom was decent. Of the 5 goals I'd say he likely should have had maybe 2 of them.
But man alive is he wild in there. His decision making is baffling.
On a breakway he turtles back into his goal giving acres of net to shoot at and a half-dozen angles, in other scenarios he's out there challenging and throwing himself wildly at every shot.
He looked like a confused and slightly senile off-brand Hasek at times.
But he has the ability, he just needs to tighten it up. And he's not a rookie, he's got to figure it out.
Overall, if I were a neutral I'd have loved that game, but as a Flames fan who has been seeing this night in and night out and sees a team that is scratching and clawing for a wildcard spot? And playing a different brand of hockey every night?
Lets just say that it doesnt instill me with a lot of confidence one way or the other.
Tonight's version of the Calgary Flames isnt making any noise in the playoffs. If they even manage to make it.
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