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Old 01-24-2023, 04:17 PM   #41
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Try explaining it maybe cause it sounds like you want to give public land to private citizens
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No. You clearly don't. That's fine. People fail to understand things all the time. It's okay. We can move on and let the thread stay on topic.
OK, now you are just being dumb.
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:21 PM   #43
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New Zealand has been moving forward on setting up a system of digital identity use for a few years, and Estonia has been ahead on this kind of thing for a while, not to mention China of course.

Everything still depends upon fraud being prevented at the point of setting up the identity, and control over the identity being maintained, but it does enable many more controls and tools for preventing fraud.
lol a digital identity would be even more susceptible to fraud.
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^^^ So I live on the 1200 block which has zoned parking, and by living on the 1200 block I am permitted to park on the 1200 block. But since I have a driveway to park on or don't own a car, I do not need to park on the block, so I can sub let that space to joe public??? I think that is what he was trying to say???
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Old 01-24-2023, 05:31 PM   #45
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So Johnny is proposing paid street parking but instead of the money going to the city that owns and maintains the space he is saying that the money should go to the people that are merely permitted to use the space by the city?

Can't see how that makes sense in that scenario. Maybe in condos with assigned stalls and spots one could sell or lease out their space. And this already happens. Maybe no fancy app but this was happening decades ago when I lived in apartments.

In the location in question around the PNE you absolutely can rent out your owned space which would be the garage, parking pad or driveway but not the street. You are permitted to park a car registered to the block not make money off of the space. People parking this way can absolutely be towed away.
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What if it happens to Canadian snowbirds while they're down South in the winter?
They come back to Canada in the Spring and their home has been sold.
I would assume most snowbirds would have a neighbour or friend look after the place since they actually live there they would be getting mail, papers etc. I would assume they don't want to come back to any surprises so a regular check in is more than likely. Possible sure but unlikely compared to property that is sitting vacant for months, years on end.
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lol a digital identity would be even more susceptible to fraud.
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^^^ So I live on the 1200 block which has zoned parking, and by living on the 1200 block I am permitted to park on the 1200 block. But since I have a driveway to park on or don't own a car, I do not need to park on the block, so I can sub let that space to joe public??? I think that is what he was trying to say???
Yeah. There are also cases where people have permits for specific spaces, such as the one or two spots directly in front of their lot. As things are now, a person with such a spot could take their car for a vacation trip to the island or something and that spot could sit empty but unusable in a high-demand area for a week. AFAIK, the city currently has no way of knowing that space isn't needed by the resident at those times, so it just sits there, unusable. But, if there were a simple system whereby a person could indicate they're not using their parking rights during a period, and they could be incentivized financially to tell the city that, and other people could see the availability of the spot and pay for time in it, then everybody wins.

From the city's point of view it's basically like saying to a resident "I give you permission to park there, but if you're not parking there at some time I would like to rent it to someone else to make money, and to encourage you to tell me when it's available to rent out I will give you a share of any money made from me renting the space during those times."

The idea wouldn't involve transferring ownership of public space to private individuals at all. That's a point that could have been easily clarified by asking a simple question rather than making an incorrect assumption and stating something was dumb, and then insisting upon understanding something that was clearly not understood. Good on you for not doing that.
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Yeah. There are also cases where people have permits for specific spaces, such as the one or two spots directly in front of their lot. As things are now, a person with such a spot could take their car for a vacation trip to the island or something and that spot could sit empty but unusable in a high-demand area for a week. AFAIK, the city currently has no way of knowing that space isn't needed by the resident at those times, so it just sits there, unusable. But, if there were a simple system whereby a person could indicate they're not using their parking rights during a period, and they could be incentivized financially to tell the city that, and other people could see the availability of the spot and pay for time in it, then everybody wins.

From the city's point of view it's basically like saying to a resident "I give you permission to park there, but if you're not parking there at some time I would like to rent it to someone else to make money, and to encourage you to tell me when it's available to rent out I will give you a share of any money made from me renting the space during those times."

The idea wouldn't involve transferring ownership of public space to private individuals at all. That's a point that could have been easily clarified by asking a simple question rather than making an incorrect assumption and stating something was dumb, and then insisting upon understanding something that was clearly not understood. Good on you for not doing that.
That must be a Vancouver thing, because I have never heard of that before(and I don't really believe it is a thing). Every one in Calgary is a large shared parking zone, usually covering a few streets for which residents have permits to share those spaces.
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In the location in question around the PNE you absolutely can rent out your owned space which would be the garage, parking pad or driveway but not the street. You are permitted to park a car registered to the block not make money off of the space. People parking this way can absolutely be towed away.


I didn't know how it worked at the time. I assumed that people on that block paid for permits and received a decal or something. I thought people who "rented" the spot out during events simply parked their own car somewhere else for the day and that the person they rented the spot to would get to use a copy of their decal or something. I was surprised when I gave them the money that I didn't get anything to put on the car to not get towed. I was naïve I guess.

It sounds like the city rarely ever enforces these laws though. Basically, someone would have to tattle and hope someone responds. From my experience, cities rarely want to get involved in things.
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I didn't know how it worked at the time. I assumed that people on that block paid for permits and received a decal or something. I thought people who "rented" the spot out during events simply parked their own car somewhere else for the day and that the person they rented the spot to would get to use a copy of their decal or something. I was surprised when I gave them the money that I didn't get anything to put on the car to not get towed. I was naïve I guess.

It sounds like the city rarely ever enforces these laws though. Basically, someone would have to tattle and hope someone responds. From my experience, cities rarely want to get involved in things.
It is actually neighbourhood dependent. Obviously enforced by the city but parking rules are individual to the neighbourhood. Some are free for alls others are just a standard permit or decal others are registered licenses plates to a home. The city can enforces these at any time but typically it is a complaint that would send the tickets and the tow trucks out. I would assume around the PNE they largely stay away unless someone blocks a driveway or alley etc. I don't know the exact details of the permits in the area around the PNE but I believe you have to display a decal to park in certain blocks.

It's a bloody zoo around those neighbourhoods during the PNE. Drive by it everyday and the people trying to get you to park are crazy! They will quite literally jump out in front of your car. Even a dude in a wheelchair would roll right out into the street to stop you.
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That must be a Vancouver thing, because I have never heard of that before(and I don't really believe it is a thing). Every one in Calgary is a large shared parking zone, usually covering a few streets for which residents have permits to share those spaces.
The idea could potentially work for that too. If the city knows that a street/area has capacity for forty cars, and 50 residents have permits, but 15 of those permit holders indicated they weren't going to use a space at that time, the city could rent out space to 5 more cars during that window. Then a share of the proceeds could be divided among the 15 permit holders who notified of giving up their spots.

Parking enforcement that I see in paid parking areas is generally managed by cars with cameras on top that drive around scanning license plate numbers, so it wouldn't matter where people parked in an area as long as their license plate matched the time they paid for according to the availability indicated by the system.

It could even combine with other city programs like trying to prioritize parking for EVs, as the app could reserve a certain percentage of parking spaces only for vehicles that are EVs or whatever.
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lol okay.

This drivel is so generic as to be totally useless.

I'm sure you find it impressive.
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lol okay.

This drivel is so generic as to be totally useless.

I'm sure you find it impressive.
A lot more impressive than anything you add to CP

But I'm sure you read the 90 pages of the bill, the 60 pages of the trust framework proposed, not to mention the pages of assurance standards, controls etc.
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Careless and greedy realtors who are hungry for sales and who are not doing their homework and due diligence against organized crime and money laundering are to blame.

Their firms and insurance should be on the hook, not the homeowners title insurnace.
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