Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by btimbit

God I hope he actually answers this

Figured he'd just come back the next day and act like he never said anything. Typical

[calculoso]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ntre-1.6714440

Alberta's Opposition#leader Rachel Notley said Friday that emission targets set by the federal government and the federal NDP are wrong#— a strategy political analysts say could#be an attempt to distance herself from Ottawa leaders.#

The provincial NDP leader and former premier was on https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcas...f-centre<br />CBC's West of Centre Friday.

…

"Both are wrong, and I've been very clear on that, and that has been my position and I will advocate that position with every tool and tactic that#I can muster, should I be given the opportunity to do that job, because it's not practical."#

[OldDutch]

How toxic is this “just transition” plan that neither leader wants anything to do with it?

I just can’t see Notley being credible to the voting public on this. She was fairly foolish getting into partnership with Trudeau her last term. If she thought he was a guy who would return the goodwill, it shows fairly poor judgement skills.

[OptimalTates]

The partnership that helped get TransMountain approved as quickly as possible after the NEB employees hired under Harper screwed it up?

I’m okay with Notley standing her ground, like she did when she got into it with other NDP leaders, and I would certainly hope she stands up to some of Trudeau’s crap.

But her playing nice with Trudeau was the best thing that has happened politically for Alberta in like the last decade.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

How toxic is this “just transition” plan that neither leader wants anything to do with it?

That depends. Are you talking about political toxicity or practical?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

How toxic is this “just transition” plan that neither leader wants anything to do with it?

But Yoho and Smitty ensured us that Notley and Trudeau were in cahoots.

I just can’t see Notley being credible to the voting public on this. She was fairly foolish getting into partnership with Trudeau her last term. If she thought he was a guy who would return the goodwill, it shows fairly poor judgement skills.

Well I guess that settles it then

[Ozy_Flame]

We already knew she doesn't (fully) align with the federal NDP, and preferred to work with the PM rather than oppose him.

This was already known. Why would she not be credible? If anything it proves even more that she's a Lougheed politician and far more appealing to the moderate voting base.

[powderjunkie]

"Notley is doing and saying exactly what I've criticized her for not doing. She can't be trusted."

or something.

[Faust]

The Breakdown @TheBreakdownAB

From the DM’s…

Heard from multiple reliable sources today that the UCP caucus is a hairs breadth away from boiling over and prospective leaders to replace Smith are actively being discussed.

/1

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...599193088?s=21

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown @TheBreakdownAB

From the DM’s…

Heard from multiple reliable sources today that the UCP caucus is a hairs breadth away from boiling over and prospective leaders to replace Smith are actively being discussed.

/1

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...599193088?s=21

Get them all into a room together....and then weld it shut from the outside and then nuke it from Orbit.

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

"Notley is doing and saying exactly what I've criticized her for not doing. She can't be trusted."

or something.

I thanked this purely for the few posts before yours. They are amazing, and kind of encapsulate Alberta voters to a tee.

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown @TheBreakdownAB

From the DM’s…

Heard from multiple reliable sources today that the UCP caucus is a hairs breadth away from boiling over and prospective leaders to replace Smith are actively being discussed.

/1

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...599193088?s=21

I highly doubt this. Highly.

Whether they should or shouldn't, they will not turf a newly elected leader mere moments before a provincial election. A lot talked a big game leading up to the party election, then afterwards, completely disappeared and can't be bothered. All for power, nothing more nothing less.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

We already knew she doesn't (fully) align with the federal NDP, and preferred to work with the PM rather than oppose him.

This was already known. Why would she not be credible? If anything it proves even more that she's a Lougheed politician and far more appealing to the moderate voting base.

She’s not credible because admitting she is for some mindless right wing voters would mean admitting their own blinding bias and lack of credibility. Notley works with other leaders when it is smart for Alberta to do so (like the carbon tax, which became worse for Alberta once we approached it ideologically as opposed to practically) and doesn’t when it isn’t. This has been known by anyone paying even slight attention.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

I thanked this purely for the few posts before yours. They are amazing, and kind of encapsulate Alberta voters to a tee.



I highly doubt this. Highly.

Whether they should or shouldn't, they will not turf a newly elected leader mere moments before a provincial election. A lot talked a big game leading up to the party election, then afterwards, completely disappeared and can't be bothered. All for power, nothing more nothing less.

Maybe dump Smith for the next chump which creates the excuse to extend the election the extra year.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown @TheBreakdownAB

From the DM’s…

Heard from multiple reliable sources today that the UCP caucus is a hairs breadth away from boiling over and prospective leaders to replace Smith are actively being discussed.

/1

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...599193088?s=21

Red-hot, believe it or not, but the rural are absolutely ####ing livid that she spent the whole surplus already.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Locke

Get them all into a room together....and then weld it shut from the outside and then nuke it from Orbit.

Honestly at this point you could probably achieve this simply by writing a sign with a big arrow that said "Trudeau blackface pictures in here!" You'd have them all inside in a few minutes.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown @TheBreakdownAB

From the DM’s…

Heard from multiple reliable sources today that the UCP caucus is a hairs breadth away from boiling over and prospective leaders to replace Smith are actively being discussed.

/1

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...599193088?s=21

The party would have to go through another leadership race which would make the UCP look like a clown show. Then again, they already are.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Dion

The party would have to go through another leadership race which would make the UCP look like a clown show. Then again, they already are.

Or would they? Correcting a horrible mistake might actually benefit them. The only problem is that they waited to do it.

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Red-hot, believe it or not, but the rural are absolutely ####ing livid that she spent the whole surplus already.

Sure. But they're not replacing the Premier, after they just replaced the Premier, with only a few months before an election.

And I grew up in rural - rural - Alberta.

[powderjunkie]

I wonder how many ridings the UCP will need new candidates in...we could see some real special bozos this time, because anyone with a modicum of self respect will stay away.

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by calculoso

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ntre-1.6714440

I am so confused. Notley is saying that the federal NDP and Liberals are wrong in their emission targets and she will fight against it. But I was told by Smith that they are all buddy buddy and Notley does what ever her overlords say. I don't get it.
I am starting to think that Smith was making crap up but that can't be true.