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Old 04-17-2007, 07:37 AM   #181
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Probably should edit your other posts anyway Oilfan... hopefully poor J. Kim didn't get too much hassle on his facebook page.
Agreed. On the news this morning it appears this person has been the focus of a lot of undue attention.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:46 AM   #182
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Librescu, a Holocaust survivor, reportedly saved the lives of students by blocking the doorway from the gunman while he ordered them to leave.


- From the people I talked to today, 15 students jumped out from that classroom out the window while Librescu was holding off the gunman. Once the last student jumped out, the 75 year old Librescu couldn't hold off the gunman any longer and had to let go of the door and then was shot and killed. What a hero.
If true, that's a remarkable story . . . .

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Old 04-17-2007, 07:52 AM   #183
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If true, that's a remarkable story . . . .

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That's a student telling the story......

http://wkbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=6379253

Here's the cbc link........

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/0...ch-070420.html
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:57 AM   #184
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If true, that's a remarkable story . . . .
That's what I'm thinking too. You know this guy had no problem holding a couple gunmen off "yeah, you guys go hide, I've dealt with Nazi's, these punks don't scare me".
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That's what I'm thinking too. You know this guy had no problem holding a couple gunmen off "yeah, you guys go hide, I've dealt with Nazi's, these punks don't scare me".


amazing story. Makes me happy and sad all at the same time. To surivive the horrors of WW2 and then die at the hands of this coward. What an incredible final deed to perform.
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More news here: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/0...ch-070420.html

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/Top...niatech_070417
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:39 AM   #187
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amazing story. Makes me happy and sad all at the same time. To surivive the horrors of WW2 and then die at the hands of this coward. What an incredible final deed to perform.
Can you even imagine? What a human being. He knew he was going to die but saved the lives of all his students. Absolutely incredible, I can't even imagine what he was thinking those final moments watching his students jump out.
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I can't even imagine what he was thinking those final moments watching his students jump out.
He might have been giving himself final closure on his Survivor Guilt. Having been through something so terrible and not being able to do anything about it; I can imagine he was saying to himself "I'm not going to just stand by this time around."

Hopefully his heroism gets officially recognized.
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:48 AM   #189
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Events like this really put other things (like hockey playoffs) in perspective. Yes, hockey is a passion; but it is not life or death.

I hope all the survivors can recover from both the physical and mental damage that has occurred.
I was thinking the same thing this morning. How true
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You have to wonder for the professor who saved his students how one can become resigned to his fate, and take control to save the lives of others. That has to be an incredible self-realization process, almost a form of super-humanism. What an absolute hero.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:02 AM   #191
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They have released the picture of the shooter, Cho Seung Hui:

http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=2368746408
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They have released the picture of the shooter, Cho Seung Hui:

http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=2368746408
They release that on facebook?
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They release that on facebook?
CNN released it about half an hour ago on tv(I saw it).........then it was put up on facebook.
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CNN released it about half an hour ago on tv(I saw it).........then it was put up on facebook.
As someone said earlier, this is exactly the type of media attention the killer was probably hoping for, and he's getting it in droves. How unfortunate they are releasing pictures and such of the killer, and not more on the healing process or the community affected by it. Sensationalism at its worst.
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I also don't agree with the fact they are saying "South Korean" Cho Seung-hui. Who cares if he's South Korean? His nationality doesn't matter, this has to be a social / psycological issue that could affect anyone of any nationality. You know the media will be out in full force to stir up debate over this issue. How unfortunate this will be for South Korea, considering that insane lunatic does not represent even a shred of Korea's otherwise wonderful people and culture.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:23 AM   #196
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For people who don't have facebook:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048534
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I also don't agree with the fact they are saying "South Korean" Cho Seung-hui. Who cares if he's South Korean? His nationality doesn't matter, this has to be a social / psycological issue that could affect anyone of any nationality. You know the media will be out in full force to stir up debate over this issue. How unfortunate this will be for South Korea, considering that insane lunatic does not represent even a shred of Korea's otherwise wonderful people and culture.
Yeah, I agree, but it's something the media does all the time.

"Iranian citizen", "Black male", etc.

The sad thing is, the unaware in the US will automatically associate this person from South Korea (and the country of South Korea) to the crazed lunatic up in North Korea, not knowing that these are two separate countries.
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Holy crap, I cant believe how big a problem this has become. Look at the dates, 13 school shootings between 1979-1998. 13 shootings in 19 years, then 1999 comes along; 42 Shootings from 1999-2006, a span of only 7 years, add one for April 16 2007. This is a very disconcerting snowball effect.


From the site posted earlier: http://www2.indystar.com/library/fac...shootings.html
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The sad thing is, the unaware in the US will automatically associate this person from South Korea (and the country of South Korea) to the crazed lunatic up in North Korea, not knowing that these are two separate countries.
Ridiculous.

Contrary to popular belief, the majority of US citizens aren't a bunch of misinformed hillbillys.

The US knows better than most I would argue, the difference between North and South Korea...you know since their military was part of the war that protected the North from the South in the end.
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Ridiculous.

Contrary to popular belief, the majority of US citizens aren't a bunch of misinformed hillbillys.

The US knows better than most I would argue, the difference between North and South Korea...you know since their military was part of the war that protected the North from the South in the end.
... which is why I said "the unaware"...

Didn't say all Americans... a tad sensitive?
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