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		|  04-16-2007, 09:37 PM | #141 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp  the masssacre is really really really sick, but..like a car crash... can't help but look. Ok maybe it's more like an airplane crashing onto a schoolbus full of nuns and children.. but you get the idea
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You seriously want to see someone line up 32 innocent people and shoot them in the head?
 
Are you really from hell?
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		|  04-16-2007, 09:42 PM | #142 |  
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					Originally Posted by Azure  You seriously want to see someone line up 32 innocent people and shoot them in the head?
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I guess the million people that checked out CNN to watch all their clips and read all the witness accounts, are from hell(fairytale place)?
		 
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		|  04-16-2007, 09:48 PM | #143 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp  I guess the million people that checked out CNN to watch all their clips and read all the witness accounts, are from hell(fairytale place)? |  
Same people that bought dvd's and tapes of 9/11.
		 
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		|  04-16-2007, 09:57 PM | #144 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp  I guess the million people that checked out CNN to watch all their clips and read all the witness accounts, are from hell(fairytale place)? |  
I watched CNN, and I didn't want to see anyone get shot.
 
I was watching in horror as everything unfolded.
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		|  04-16-2007, 09:57 PM | #145 |  
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					Originally Posted by BlackArcher101  Same people that bought dvd's and tapes of 9/11. |  
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		|  04-16-2007, 11:27 PM | #147 |  
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			There is quite a story being told by a woman who witnessed the worst of it and actually "played dead" in the room where he killed a whole bunch of people. She's hard to miss (she is bald) so if you happen to see her on the wall to wall coverage have a listen. It's pretty awful.  "Only 4 of us left the classroom, everyone else was unconcscious or dead".  Yeesh. The "he lined them up and shot them execution style" rumors don't mesh with what she had to say.
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		|  04-16-2007, 11:46 PM | #148 |  
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos  There is quite a story being told by a woman who witnessed the worst of it and actually "played dead" in the room where he killed a whole bunch of people. She's hard to miss (she is bald) so if you happen to see her on the wall to wall coverage have a listen. It's pretty awful.  "Only 4 of us left the classroom, everyone else was unconcscious or dead".  Yeesh. The "he lined them up and shot them execution style" rumors don't mesh with what she had to say. |  
I got the impression that the magnitude of what she witnessed has not even begun to sink in. She was talking about it like she had just gone to the store to get some milk, not seen 25 or so classmates brutally murdered.
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:07 AM | #149 |  
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			CONFIRMED: 
The following people are some(18/32) but not all of the victims who passed away today:
  
Professor Liviu Librescu 
Professor Kevin Granata 
Jamie Bishop 
Henry Lee 
Ryan Clark 
Leslie Sherman 
Emily Hilscher 
Dr. Give. Loganathan 
Juan Ortiz 
Jarrett Lane 
Maxine Turner 
Reema Samaha 
Mary Read 
Daniel Perez 
Caitlin Hammaren 
Brian Bluhm 
Matt La Porte 
Ross Alameddine
  
God bless you all.
  
Professor Granata's page (confirmed from my friend that he passed away):
 
http://www.esm.vt.edu/php/person.php?id=10012 
Professor Librescu (also confirmed):
 
http://www.esm.vt.edu/php/person.php?id=10023 
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:13 AM | #150 |  
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			I offer my condolences to all those who died this school year due to school shootings.  Students and professors at Dawson College in Montreal, today's and any other deaths.
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					Originally Posted by OILFAN #81  UNCONFIRMED:
 Talked to some more of the people I know at VTech and it does indeed seem like he was upset for his girlfriend being with another guy.
 
 
 Additionally, the following people are some(18/32) but not all of the victims who passed away today:
 
 Professor Liviu Librescu
 Professor Kevin Granata
 Jamie Bishop
 Henry Lee
 Ryan Clark
 Leslie Sherman
 Emily Hilscher
 Dr. Give. Loganathan
 Juan Ortiz
 Jarrett Lane
 Maxine Turner
 Reema Samaha
 Mary Read
 Daniel Perez
 Caitlin Hammaren
 Brian Bluhm
 Matt La Porte
 Ross Alameddine
 
 God bless you all.
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This is just such a horrific and tragic event. If you type in the names of those people on Facebook on their VTech network, they all look so happy in their pictures. One of those victims even has a picture of her with her family. It's hard to imagine what those people's family members are going through right now. I find it incredibly eery looking through those pictures knowing what happened to them today. They got up today and went to school just like the rest of us. None of them knew it was to be their last because of some deranged ****ing psychopath.
  
I really hope the media doesn't start analyzing the life of the shooter and instead focuses on all the innocent lives cut short today, but sadly while the debate on guns, video games, etc. rages on, I doubt the lives and stories of those killed today will be publicized.
  
It's also incredibly eery watching that cell phone video one of the students took where you could hear the bullets from the inside being fired. When I first watched it there was one person already confirmed dead, but watching it again knowing that each shot fired probably killed an innocent person, it's very hard to watch.
  
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:28 AM | #152 |  
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			Here's a story on Ryan Clark, one of the diseased today.http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories...hStudent.shtml 
Again, seemed like a great guy (had a twin brother and a loving family).
  
I just don't get this b*ll that life throws our way.
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:28 AM | #153 |  
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			Geez, I swear I live in a bubble sometimes.  I don't usually watch TV but I happened to turn on the 11 oclock news tonight when I got home, and only heard about the shooting then.  Absolutely terrible.  Stuff like that just sends shivers up and down my spine, because it seems to be happening far too often these days.
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:33 AM | #154 |  
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			My thoughts and prayers go out to the friends and familes.
		 
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:45 AM | #155 |  
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					Originally Posted by leonk19  I really hope the media doesn't start analyzing the life of the shooter and instead focuses on all the innocent lives cut short today, but sadly while the debate on guns, video games, etc. rages on, I doubt the lives and stories of those killed today will be publicized. |  
Unfortunately that is exactly what is going to happen.  The shooter is going to get exactly what he wanted, attention and "fame" for his actions today.  I for one hope they don't even publish his name, and simply focus on the victims, but i really think that is a long shot.
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:50 AM | #156 |  
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					Originally Posted by iggypop  Unfortunately that is exactly what is going to happen. The shooter is going to get exactly what he wanted, attention and "fame" for his actions today. I for one hope they don't even publish his name, and simply focus on the victims, but i really think that is a long shot. |  
If you do the reasearch on school shootings it really has nothing to do with fame. Alot of these shooters were bullied and ostricised by their peers. Acts like this are their way of getting back. It's more like revenge shootings.
  
I also posted a story on another thread that points out the media taking an interest in these type of victims.
		 
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		|  04-17-2007, 01:54 AM | #157 |  
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					Originally Posted by Dion  If you do the reasearch on school shootings it really has nothing to do with fame. Alot of these shooters were bullied and ostricised by their peers. Acts like this are their way of getting back. It's more like revenge shootings. |  
For the most part yes, but this wasn't a high school shooting where most bullying takes place. This was a university, and from all my university experience, I have yet to see a single person get "bullied" or even constantly made fun of in a malicious manner in a university, especially considering VTech had over 25,000 students.
  
This just sounds like some nut who went crazy because he couldn't take his girlfriend, exams, etc. and thought the only way to make things right was shoot up a bunch of innocent people.
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		|  04-17-2007, 02:02 AM | #158 |  
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			http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=2301409347&ref=mf
 
Can you believe this bullsh*t????????
  
What the ##### is wrong with people. I wish I knew who created that group, I really do. Absolutely appauling and that c*cksucker needs to be taught a lesson.
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		|  04-17-2007, 02:11 AM | #159 |  
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					Originally Posted by leonk19  For the most part yes, but this wasn't a high school shooting where most bullying takes place. This was a university, and from all my university experience, I have yet to see a single person get "bullied" or even constantly made fun of in a malicious manner in a university, especially considering VTech had over 25,000 students. |  
Bullying happens in the workplace so I don't see why it can't happen in a post secondary level. I was a victim of bullying when I attended college. It can happen.
 
 
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I thinks there's more to it than the breakup. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he had emotional problems. Problem is he is dead and we may never get all the facts.
		 
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