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Old 12-22-2022, 02:05 PM   #7881
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Dude was also amazing defensively and was awesome at puck retrievals/break out passes. He’s elite.



Worth mentioning that Johnny really finished well last season too. Think of how many Chances Toffoli has had and put Johnny (or Chucky’s) finishing ability in that spot (and that’s no shot on Toffoli, just different tier of players). Johnny and Chucky were lethal.

In general I’m not overly concerned about this team making the playoffs or not - I think they will. I just have trouble believing they’re anything “special” come playoff time…time will tell, but I just hate being a team in that 10-16 spot league-wide. We’ve spent so much time in that range, with it usually being closer to 16 than 10. It felt like at the end of last season we were finally establishing ourselves as a top team and then the rug got pulled out from under our feet and we’re right back into that mushy middle.
I wasn't the biggest fan of his defensive play, mid season his defensive play broke down. He started standing at the blue line and throwing cross ice passes regardless of the circumstances.

He was a good player for us, and everything aligned for that line last year.
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Old 12-22-2022, 02:15 PM   #7882
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God I hope Kylington is back soon
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Old 12-22-2022, 02:56 PM   #7883
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God I hope Kylington is back soon
Frank this morning on the Fan960 seemed to imply (if i heard it correctly) that the Flames were expecting this to be a shorter term thing for Kylington. In the weeks range not months like its been.
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Old 12-22-2022, 03:57 PM   #7884
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Frank this morning on the Fan960 seemed to imply (if i heard it correctly) that the Flames were expecting this to be a shorter term thing for Kylington. In the weeks range not months like its been.
meaning weeks from now?

kylington sliding back in next to tanev would be good for tanev as well as the slotting of every one else

we sure could use him down the stretch
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Old 12-22-2022, 04:01 PM   #7885
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I think Seattle makes the playoffs, never said they are a lock for 2nd.

For the record I think the Flames pick it up in the send half and get a 2/3 spot.
Okay, so you think they are in the race with the other teams

2 divisional spots up for grabs and the wildcards
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Old 12-22-2022, 04:05 PM   #7886
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I think they're a wildcard, but finally get in the groove we all expected in the final 6-8 weeks and look like a 1/2 seed in the playoffs and easily make the second round, going out in a long series

part of that is hope and wishful thinking .. but still my prediction

guys are gradually trending the right way, up and down the roster
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Let's not forget that the amazing team last year looked like garbage the year before, even under Sutter.

It took them half a season to get used to his systems play.

I think this team looks like a contender come the back half of the season this year, assuming goaltending is OK going forward.
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Old 12-22-2022, 04:47 PM   #7888
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Let's not forget that the amazing team last year looked like garbage the year before, even under Sutter.

It took them half a season to get used to his systems play.

I think this team looks like a contender come the back half of the season this year, assuming goaltending is OK going forward.
Sutter teams typically start off slow when he takes over. Not in every case, of course.

With the significant turnover, it is possible that we are just seeing another adjustment period. At least I hope that has been the case.
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okay, so you think they are in the race with the other teams

2 divisional spots up for grabs and the wildcards
lol.
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Old 12-23-2022, 07:04 AM   #7890
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Ok- new take here but if we could acquire Chychrun using Kylington as a piece and not risking the 2023 1st, I think that would be a big win. Something like kylington+ 2024 1st + small add.
Could work cap wise if we carried around only 1 extra roster player instead of 2 or 3.

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Hanifin-Andersson
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I'd rather Kylington and the 1st. Stop trading 1sts. Flames aren't in any position to further cripple the future.
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Ok- new take here but if we could acquire Chychrun using Kylington as a piece and not risking the 2023 1st, I think that would be a big win. Something like kylington+ 2024 1st + small add.
Could work cap wise if we carried around only 1 extra roster player instead of 2 or 3.

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Hanifin-Andersson
Chychrun- Tanev
Zadorov-weegar
Doesn't sound appealing to Arizona. Getting a guy who's not playing and not even a 2023 first? I'm guessing that would be beaten by everyone.
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meaning weeks from now?

kylington sliding back in next to tanev would be good for tanev as well as the slotting of every one else

we sure could use him down the stretch
It would break up Stone and Big Z. Which would be a good thing.
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meaning weeks from now?

kylington sliding back in next to tanev would be good for tanev as well as the slotting of every one else

we sure could use him down the stretch
No, the Flames expected Kylington to miss a few weeks of the season not a few months. They're likely as uncertain as the rest of us.
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Frank this morning on the Fan960 seemed to imply (if i heard it correctly) that the Flames were expecting this to be a shorter term thing for Kylington. In the weeks range not months like its been.
Pat Steinberg, at the beginning of the season, said he expected it be a long term absence.
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lol.
Its okay...people lol'd when I said Vegas might not make it last season

I think Seattle has had everything go right for them and have been taken lightly...they might get a spot but of Calgary, LA, Edmonton, Seattle, they would be my third or fourth pick despite play so far. Their goaltending is really starting to buckle.
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Its okay...people lol'd when I said Vegas might not make it last season

I think Seattle has had everything go right for them and have been taken lightly...they might get a spot but of Calgary, LA, Edmonton, Seattle, they would be my third or fourth pick despite play so far. Their goaltending is really starting to buckle.
People LOL'd when we said the Panthers are a good bet to miss this year as well, especially when I saw the Staal brothers in the lineup.
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Its okay...people lol'd when I said Vegas might not make it last season

I think Seattle has had everything go right for them and have been taken lightly...they might get a spot but of Calgary, LA, Edmonton, Seattle, they would be my third or fourth pick despite play so far. Their goaltending is really starting to buckle.
Not Laughing at you saying Seattle may not make it. They may not. Laughing at you and your tunnel vision when you read other peoples posts.
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Not Laughing at you saying Seattle may not make it. They may not. Laughing at you and your tunnel vision when you read other peoples posts.
your first comment implied SEA was a given for 2nd, and CGY, LAK and EDM were fighting for 3rd and WC - that is what people were challenging
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Not Laughing at you saying Seattle may not make it. They may not. Laughing at you and your tunnel vision when you read other peoples posts.
You certainly implied that Seattle was a lock

"Calgary, Edmonton, LA battling for two spots"
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