Edmonton is No Good X: Up and Down Like a Toilet Seat

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

$9.25 million buyer remorse

Glad you brought that up. He’s clearly struggling, and right now isn’t performing as a 9.25 million player. But he’s going to turn it around too. 34 games makes not a season. If he stinks the whole year and into the playoffs if we make it, I’ll take back my words that the Oil slightly overpaid. You may have a few contracts yourself you want to give a little more time to before judgment.

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I agree that 7.5M in total for goalies isn't bad. But the issue is that management repeated the exact error they did with Koskinen. They would have better served taking a chance that Skinner could be an adequate #1 and pair him with a cheaper veteran back-up. Over-committing to Campbell was just a mistake that reduces flexibility going forward.

I agree. I said last year Skinner was our future and I didn’t love the Campbell signing. However I totally understood why they did it.

[Buzzard]

But that's what's part of the joke. Darnell Nurse never was a 9.25M player. He's a good D, maybe a first pairing on some teams, but a second pair defenceman on most good teams. He should be making probably no more than 6M tops, and even that's a stretch in my mind. Probably 5.5 is fair enough.

Trouble is, at least for your team, he's taking the salary of two decent defenceman. All because he had one really good (shortened) season, and they were in such a panic to sign a #1 D..lol

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Rising_Oil_Prices

Glad you brought that up. He’s clearly struggling, and right now isn’t performing as a 9.25 million player. But he’s going to turn it around too. 34 games makes not a season. If he stinks the whole year and into the playoffs if we make it, I’ll take back my words that the Oil slightly overpaid. You may have a few contracts yourself you want to give a little more time to before judgment.

Slightly overpaid? Yowza. Way more than slightly.

[Aarongavey]

Nugent Hopkins is on pace for 99 points. Super surprised to see that.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Nugent Hopkins is on pace for 99 points. Super surprised to see that.

all points count obviously but he does play on their PP (and even moreso with Kane gone), so he's sitting 3rd in NHL PP scoring behind 'you' and 'know who' and in even strength scoring he's 75th, one point ahead of Dube

[Paulie Walnuts]

Slightly over paid for Nurse? Might one of the lowest iq players in the league. He's worth 6 at most.

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Slightly over paid for Nurse? Might one of the lowest iq players in the league. He's worth 6 at most.

At the time of the signing I said it was a slight overpay. If you take what he did injured last year in the playoffs and combine it with this year, he’s not earning the contract. But if he plays like he did in the playoffs this year, like he did last year but healthy, and the oilers make the cup final as I predict, his contract won’t look as bad. The oilers were betting on his consistent improvement but that hasn’t been there this year.. yet. It’s only 34 games into his new contract but I will be willing to concede I am wrong if he doesn’t improve his game some. You guys are right, 9 mil guys shouldn’t have off years.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Cup final? You went from if they make the playoffs to predicting a cup final appearance.

[All In Good Time]

That contract is horrendous
Considering Edmontons cap situation and needs they’d be better off giving him away for free,it it were even possible. They could get 2 defensemen that would be close to the best on their roster for that money

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Rising_Oil_Prices

and the oilers make the cup final as I predict,

Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha lay off the day drinking.

[midniteowl]

You guys are right, 9 mil guys shouldn’t have off years.

See, that's the thing. Oilers fans think he is / was having an off year, but fact is, that wasn't / isn't his off year, that's his normal year. It is what he is.

[CaptainCrunch]

Glad you brought that up. He’s clearly struggling, and right now isn’t performing as a 9.25 million player. But he’s going to turn it around too. 34 games makes not a season. If he stinks the whole year and into the playoffs if we make it, I’ll take back my words that the Oil slightly overpaid. You may have a few contracts yourself you want to give a little more time to before judgment.

He was a mid pairing defenseman before the Covid season, road a fluke season with a weak Canadian Division and had a out of ordinary shooting percentage to a 9 million per year contract given by a bad GM, and then fell back to his mean or slightly below that.

I'm sorry, he's not going to get much better, he's always had a poor hockey sense without the puck. He's always had pretty poor positioning. Its not a slight overpay, its actually one of the worst hand trying contract in the league, and a laughing at Holland contract. I don't blame him for taking it, his agent was screaming start the car when the offer came through.

Oh and since he's signed that contract, he's stank, he stank last year, he stanks this year.

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Cup final? You went from if they make the playoffs to predicting a cup final appearance.

Yup. Last year I had them making noise in the playoffs, and maybe win a round or two…. This year I think they take what they learned last year, and improve to the finals. Total fan boy prediction I get it.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Cup final? You went from if they make the playoffs to predicting a cup final appearance.

Well obviously if the make they playoffs the league concedes them a spot in the finals. Kinda like a McRightofWay. It’s written in the league bylaws.

[CaptainCrunch]

Glad you brought that up. He’s clearly struggling, and right now isn’t performing as a 9.25 million player. But he’s going to turn it around too. 34 games makes not a season. If he stinks the whole year and into the playoffs if we make it, I’ll take back my words that the Oil slightly overpaid. You may have a few contracts yourself you want to give a little more time to before judgment.

He was a mid pairing defenseman before the Covid season, road a fluke season with a weak Canadian Division and had a out of ordinary shooting percentage to a 9 million per year contract given by a bad GM, and then fell back to his mean or slightly below that.

I'm sorry, he's not going to get much better, he's always had a poor hockey sense without the puck. He's always had pretty poor positioning. Its not a slight overpay, its actually one of the worst hand trying contract in the league, and a laughing at Holland contract. I don't blame him for taking it, his agent was screaming start the car when the offer came through.

Oh and since he's signed that contract, he's stank, he stank last year, he stanks this year.

Oh and the Oilers making the cup finals as you predicted. Oh Bubbie, the Oilers with that blueline, that terrible bottom 6. A poorly prepared coach. Inconsistant goaltending. Having to play Draisaitl and McDavid for a half a game a night.

The Oilers are on the playoff banana peel, standing in a tub full of baby oil, on the edge of the we didn't make the playoffs time to rebuild cliff.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

He was a mid pairing defenseman before the Covid season, road a fluke season with a weak Canadian Division and had a out of ordinary shooting percentage to a 9 million per year contract given by a bad GM, and then fell back to his mean or slightly below that.

I'm sorry, he's not going to get much better, he's always had a poor hockey sense without the puck. He's always had pretty poor positioning. Its not a slight overpay, its actually one of the worst hand trying contract in the league, and a laughing at Holland contract. I don't blame him for taking it, his agent was screaming start the car when the offer came through.

Oh and since he's signed that contract, he's stank, he stank last year, he stanks this year.

Oh and the Oilers making the cup finals as you predicted. Oh Bubbie, the Oilers with that blueline, that terrible bottom 6. A poorly prepared coach. Inconsistant goaltending. Having to play Draisaitl and McDavid for a half a game a night.

The Oilers are on the playoff banana peel, standing in a tub full of baby oil, on the edge of the we didn't make the playoffs time to rebuild cliff.

They'll just do what Oilers do.

They'll slip and draft 1st overall. Again.

[Enoch Root]

All of the classic Oiler fan failures on display with this guy: unbridled optimism, excuses for current play, blind homerism, complete lack of awareness of team short-comings, and the best one of all, the "when everything (finally) comes together this year, and they win it all, then you'll see I was right all along!" argument!

Never change, Oiler fans. Never change.

[CaptainCrunch]

I would be outright terrified of that goaltending duo. Right now Campbell isn't a quality NHL backup, and hasn't been a quality NHL goaltender since halfway through last year. Another nice overpayment by Holland.

Skinner looks good, but 2 things. You're expecting him to be capable of playing 50 or 60 games at this level? Good luck, you're more likely to exhaust him. He's playing behind the worst defense in the league since Super Mario hockey on the Nintendo.

Its more likely that the Oilers will be planning a draft party by January, and not booking playoff dates.

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

He was a mid pairing defenseman before the Covid season, road a fluke season with a weak Canadian Division and had a out of ordinary shooting percentage to a 9 million per year contract given by a bad GM, and then fell back to his mean or slightly below that.

I'm sorry, he's not going to get much better, he's always had a poor hockey sense without the puck. He's always had pretty poor positioning. Its not a slight overpay, its actually one of the worst hand trying contract in the league, and a laughing at Holland contract. I don't blame him for taking it, his agent was screaming start the car when the offer came through.

Oh and since he's signed that contract, he's stank, he stank last year, he stanks this year.

He was good in the playoffs last year considering his injury. You’re right he has a lot of weaknesses defensively, but up until this year he was improving that. It’s a bad contract if he doesn’t improve again this year. I said that last year as well. It was a gamble the oilers took, might not pay off but I think it’s still way too early to say. He is +11 if that counts for anything but he fails the eye test so far imo.