2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Huberdeau for Dach, Sean Farrell and a 2nd. Who says no?

Flames and Montreal's cap space.

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Dach is another Monahan type player. He has good hockey IQ and can score but he needs a play driver. It's so visible this team needs a play driver or at least more speed. Speed allows easier transition, zone entries, which allows the Huberdeaus, Lindholms, Toffolis to get into offensive opportunities.

I don't even think they need an all star. They need someone who can enter the zone and get Huberdeau the puck to start the cycle

[cam_wmh]

What was the strength of opposition that Huberdeau faced, in Miami? Barkov line faced the heavies?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Dach is another Monahan type player. He has good hockey IQ and can score but he needs a play driver. It's so visible this team needs a play driver or at least more speed. Speed allows easier transition, zone entries, which allows the Huberdeaus, Lindholms, Toffolis to get into offensive opportunities.

They all need a Johnny Gaudreau

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Huberdeau for Dach, Sean Farrell and a 2nd. Who says no?

trading a star player for parts, because he is currently struggling - that's how you build a winner!

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

trading a star player for parts, because he is currently struggling - that's how you build a winner!

Dach is only 21, plays a more valuable position, and has a higher PPG (and more points) than Huberdeau so far this season. I would say he looks as much a star as Huberdeau right now. We get the extra pieces to make up for the career diversion, but we are also getting much more potential.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Dach is only 21, plays a more valuable position, and has a higher PPG (and more points) than Huberdeau so far this season. I would say he looks as much a star as Huberdeau right now. We get the extra pieces to make up for the career diversion, but we are also getting much more potential.

It’d have to be Dach+Anderson+Hoffman or something outside of Huberdeau vs Dach

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

They all need a Johnny Gaudreau

Is he having second thoughts. What would we have to trade to get him back lol.

[dammage79]

Just had a thought:

Huberdeau-Kadri- Lindholm
Mangiapane-Backlund-Toffoli
Coleman- Ruzicka-Dube
Plug-plug-plug

[genetic_phreek]

Based on our current cap situation and standings, what is a realistic trade we can or might make? Tre isn't going to scorch the earth any time soon, if he does make a trade, are we trading a roster player or a young guy (Coronato, Zary, Pelletier) or draft picks and for what in return?

Not a ton of playoff teams have cap space either.

Flames needs: top 6 scorer, bottom pairing dman

Possible trade targets for forwards:
Boeser
Horvat
Toews
Kane
Tarasenko
Nyquist
Bertuzzi
Van Reimsdyk
Drouin
Domi
Athanasiou
Barbashev

Current roster

New contracts:
Huberdeau - not getting traded
Weegar - not getting traded
Kadri - not getting traded
Vladar - not getting traded

Upcoming UFAs:
Lucic - been healthy scratched, maybe requests to be traded to contender?
Ritchie - 4th liner
Lewis - useful utility guy
Stone - possible lifetime Flame
Zohorna - tweener

UFA's after next season:
Backlund - bleeds Flames, possible extension with lower AAV to ride out his career here
Lindholm - possible trade target since he's going to be due for a large raise and will be 29 years old but still not likely
Toffoli - possible trade target, good value for production but we're all in so still not likely
Hanifin - still young, possible extension maybe around 5-6 million
Tanev - age and injuries so likely not trading
Zadorov - possible trade target, good bruising d man for decent cap hit

The rest:
Mangiapane - down year, high AAV, still young, not likely
Coleman - too much term, high AAV, lower production, not likely
Dube - still young, possible trade bait
Ruzicka - still young, not likely
Andersson - young, great AAV, great production, not getting traded
Markstrom - too much AAV and term to move, not likely

[iggyloob12]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Based on our current cap situation and standings, what is a realistic trade we can or might make? Tre isn't going to scorch the earth any time soon, if he does make a trade, are we trading a roster player or a young guy (Coronato, Zary, Pelletier) or draft picks and for what in return?

Not a ton of playoff teams have cap space either.

Flames needs: top 6 scorer, bottom pairing dman

Possible trade targets for forwards:
Boeser
Horvat
Toews
Kane
Tarasenko
Nyquist
Bertuzzi
Van Reimsdyk
Drouin
Domi
Athanasiou
Barbashev

Current roster

New contracts:
Huberdeau - not getting traded
Weegar - not getting traded
Kadri - not getting traded
Vladar - not getting traded

Upcoming UFAs:
Lucic - been healthy scratched, maybe requests to be traded to contender?
Ritchie - 4th liner
Lewis - useful utility guy
Stone - possible lifetime Flame
Zohorna - tweener

UFA's after next season:
Backlund - bleeds Flames, possible extension with lower AAV to ride out his career here
Lindholm - possible trade target since he's going to be due for a large raise and will be 29 years old but still not likely
Toffoli - possible trade target, good value for production but we're all in so still not likely
Hanifin - still young, possible extension maybe around 5-6 million
Tanev - age and injuries so likely not trading
Zadorov - possible trade target, good bruising d man for decent cap hit

The rest:
Mangiapane - down year, high AAV, still young, not likely
Coleman - too much term, high AAV, lower production, not likely
Dube - still young, possible trade bait
Ruzicka - still young, not likely
Andersson - young, great AAV, great production, not getting traded
Markstrom - too much AAV and term to move, not likely

There's been smoke about Josh Anderson and the Flames. North-south player would fit Darryl's style. Right shot, fast. I haven't seen him enough to say if that's a good idea or not.

In terms of subtracting someone, Ruzicka is probably one of the most attractive roster players due to his age, upside and low cost. I don't think the Flames should or would do that. Mangiapane is young-ish so he could be of interest to a rebuilding club despite his cap hit and the possibility that he's closer to a 17- to 20-goal scorer than the 35 goals we saw last year.
Otherwise, we're dealing draft picks and prospects like a Pelletier. I do wonder if the emergence of Vladar puts Wolf into the trade-chip bucket.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

What was the strength of opposition that Huberdeau faced, in Miami? Barkov line faced the heavies?

Barkov plays 60 games a season

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by iggyloob12

There's been smoke about Josh Anderson and the Flames. North-south player would fit Darryl's style. Right shot, fast. I haven't seen him enough to say if that's a good idea or not.

In terms of subtracting someone, Ruzicka is probably one of the most attractive roster players due to his age, upside and low cost. I don't think the Flames should or would do that. Mangiapane is young-ish so he could be of interest to a rebuilding club despite his cap hit and the possibility that he's closer to a 17- to 20-goal scorer than the 35 goals we saw last year.
Otherwise, we're dealing draft picks and prospects like a Pelletier. I do wonder if the emergence of Vladar puts Wolf into the trade-chip bucket.

Flames have no cap space next year to add Anderson. If anything they need to shed salary this summer.

[iggyloob12]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Flames have no cap space next year to add Anderson. If anything they need to shed salary this summer.

Well, they'd need to move a body/bodies obviously. Or are you suggesting we have a roster full of untouchables (or untradeables)? Next year's problem is just that.

[TheScorpion]

Josh Anderson's contract is one of the worst in the league. The Flames need to avoid it at all costs.

[iggyloob12]

Like Mangiapane bad?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Josh Anderson's contract is one of the worst in the league. The Flames need to avoid it at all costs.

Yeah, the Flames don't have a contract I'd be happy swapping for his.

5.5 million for maybe 20 goals and not much else.

Originally Posted by iggyloob12

Like Mangiapane bad?

So much worse. 2 years longer, only a touch cheaper and Mangipane is out performing him

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, the Flames don't have a contract I'd be happy swapping for his.

5.5 million for maybe 20 goals and not much else.

The killer is the term. *Four more years after this one for a glorified third-line forward. Yuck.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The killer is the term. Five more years after this one for a glorified third-line forward. Yuck.

Yeah, not a contract I'd trade for his unless Huberdeau blows chunks and Flames can get youth from Montreal as well

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The killer is the term. *Four more years after this one for a glorified third-line forward. Yuck.

$4.9M for FOUR more years.

You rang?

[TheScorpion]

I'd much rather have Blake