[PGT] Flames lose in shootout again…4-3 to canucks

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Here is a scenario:

Flames enter the lottery --> win first overall --> select Connor Bedard --> fanbase is excited to watch their new franchise player.... --> Sutter sends Bedard back to the minors in favour of players like Lewis and Lucic. Because Bedard needs to play in the minors for a few years and earn his spot.

You forgot Bedard signs with CSKA Moscow, then and only then it would be a scenario

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by johnnyhockey13

Watching them live makes u want to vomit

I was at the game as well. They could not complete a pass to save themselves. That might be in the top five of worst home games in the last several years.

[NewFan]

This team hasn't any leader to take take the team to the next level. Bunch of supporting stars that may be very good play without pressure behind somebody. Markstrom can't bring his A game when we really need a win. Huberdeau was very good behind Barkow's line, and Lindholm is one of the best C of the league when supports an elite winger.
And our Ds were deep better than average D, but without Tanev they just play roles guys who can't change momentum for the game.
I see this is a perfect wild card team that will be crushed on very first controversy in playoff series against their first round.

[Delthefunky]

I haven't watched too many games this year, but I watched most of this one. I think Huberdeau looks good but nowhere near $10.5 million good. at least he's physical though and looks like he gives a damn. he might just need some different linemates. would be nice to bring someone in he can bounce some picks off of. but yeah, you can tell he's got the tools but for whatever reason it's just not working for him at the moment. Problem to me is clutch goaltending. we need to string some wins together and build some confidence.

[Manhattanboy]

I was watching Matt Barzal last night and thinking that was what I was hoping Huberdeau was going to be.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by NewFan

This team hasn't any leader to take take the team to the next level. Bunch of supporting stars that may be very good play without pressure behind somebody. Markstrom can't bring his A game when we really need a win. Huberdeau was very good behind Barkow's line, and Lindholm is one of the best C of the league when supports an elite winger.
And our Ds were deep better than average D, but without Tanev they just play roles guys who can't change momentum for the game.
I see this is a perfect wild card team that will be crushed on very first controversy in playoff series against their first round.

PLAYOFFS?

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I was at the game as well. They could not complete a pass to save themselves. That might be in the top five of worst home games in the last several years.

Seems to be the majority of games this season though. If they lose playing a system, that's one thing. However, they look completely lost out there.

[Sec214]

Maybe making Chucky the Captain wouldn’t have be so bad after all.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I want a hooker and some blow about now.

This?

https://www.amazon.ca/Hookers-Blow-C.../dp/1777225124

[badradio]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Oh yeah, Gulutzan. I swear that guy coached to chase advanced stats thinking that if you have the metrics, success will follow. In reality, advanced stats just tell you what happened, but not what will happen. If they simply play well and execute, the positive stats naturally follow. I really doubt that is what Sutter does.

Actually, that is exactly what Sutter does. He’s mentioned it multiple times. If the team does this this and this - wins will follow. Shots was one of those metrics.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Buff

This?

https://www.amazon.ca/Hookers-Blow-C.../dp/1777225124

I’ll take one in Hard cover please.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

center depth be damned, team is probably better with prime Tkachuk than Kadri

didn't think I would be saying that

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

center depth be damned, team is probably better with prime Tkachuk than Kadri

didn't think I would be saying that

If Kadri didn’t sign in the first couple of days of FA, we should of left his ass begging with Uncle Lou… Instead we traded a wild card 1st rounder which by the way isn’t that far off when next year is 2023…

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Not singling you out, but I really dislike this take.

Fanbases can suffer and be frustrated and be vocal about that and still be every bit as much of a fan as the ‘optimists’. If you can’t do that on a forum among your fellow fans then where can you?

Would it be more fun on this board if it was just homogenous, blind optimism?

Yep, 100%. I mostly watch as an observer to CP discussion, and honestly the "OMG here comes the negative crowd!!!!!" are just as guilty of dividing and ruining discourse as the negative crowd, imo.

Look at any thread and they just dominate the discussion with "OMGG look another brutal, negative take!!!!" every time anyone has concerns or negative feelings towards the team.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can do whatever you want, why do you have a problem with me (or people like me) doing whatever I want? Someone asked how someone can be an optimist, I answered how. I never said you can’t be a fan of you’re not an optimist, but I honestly don’t understand why you’d be a fan if you weren’t having fun. That seems like a really silly way to waste your time. “What are you up to tonight?” “I’m going to spend 2 hours watching a team I hate watching play a sport I barely like and then sit on the internet talking about how much I dislike that team.”

Incredibly cool stuff. I can’t think of anything less rewarding.

And to be honest, yeah, it would probably be more fun if we were all just blind optimists who just had fun watching the game. It kind of sucks reading through the same repetitive complaints by the same 20 people bumping the same dumb threads, but it’s fun to make fun of at least. As long as we’re all having fun, whatever that looks like is cool.

Cool story. If you’re disappointed flames fans, pack it up because it’s not fun anymore, and don’t complain amongst each other because it’s depressing for the optimists to read.

Glad you’re having fun making fun of people. That’s a much better way to spend time.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

For some reason I think this team is going to bounce back. They’re probably going to make the playoffs, then anything can happen.

It’s built well from top to bottom. It’s easy to say we miss 13 and 19 but they had some bad years too. We finished 1st in the western conference and were a 1st round exit.

For some reason, they don’t have their mojo. But if they get it back, they have a lot of experience to grind out playoff wins.

I may have Homer glasses on but I think they’ll be fine.

Me too, I really think that Huberdeau is going to come around (and already is) despite not having proper line mates. I also think Treliving knows we're down at least one top 6 forward and will make a move for one.

We look mediocre now, but I could see Sutter getting through to the new players, and addition or two and suddenly we start to look much better and surprise in the playoffs.

[Barnet Flame]

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[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

If the top line was any good offensively, this team has easily 5 more wins this season. 30 games into the season, we've scored 3 goals with Huberdeau-Lindholm-Toffoli on the ice. Forget the goalies, forget special teams - this is the biggest issue with the team.

I’m sick of people arguing over what is the biggest issue.

There are issues everywhere:

Forwards
Defence
Goalies
Coaching
Discipline for all of the above
Contracts

If get good goalkeeping and concede two, we’ll score one.
If we get good offence and score four, we’ll concede five and give up a host of breakaways, two on ones and sometimes, two on nones.
No lead is safe, not even two goal leads in the third - so we’re always on edge.
Our discipline, particularly in crunch situations is non-existent and constantly costs us.
We are outcoached almost every night from when we were by a rookie POS in the playoffs.

But yeah, lets argue over what is worse, our goal scoring or our goalies.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603059109452218368

I’d rather get 24 8% shots than 20 9% shots. Shot quality is only an issue when you’re not routinely outshooting the opponent. That hasn’t been the Flames problem this year.

[genetic_phreek]

On a positive note, we're on a 6 game unbeaten in regulation streak in Canada