12-14-2022, 11:45 PM
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#181
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Young Guns
Interview with Martin he said we just funnel a lot of shots at net. Basically meaning it was a lot of nothing coming his way.
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Originally Posted by soulchoice
That’s been the insight from quite a number of analysts and coaches all year with respect to the shot counts.
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It's worrisome because this is what Gulutzan used to do. Get everything to the net and we dominate advanced stats.
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12-14-2022, 11:45 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by young guns
interview with martin he said we just funnel a lot of shots at net. Basically meaning it was a lot of nothing coming his way.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1603059109452218368
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12-14-2022, 11:47 PM
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#183
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: St. Albert
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
It's just weird to me that a Flames fan can watch this team from 2006 to 2013 and think that it's a good strategy to just make the playoffs and then "anything can happen".
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that squeaking into the playoffs is a great strategy, but that's where we're headed—in a best-case scenario. We all know the team isn't going to rebuild.
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12-14-2022, 11:47 PM
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#184
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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went for wings thinking it was a 7pm start and ended up leaving the bar around puck drop with miss crimm instead, which ended up being a much better use of 2 hours
tuning in later for the so/ot reaffirmed that .. brutal
'not the flames' is proving to be a wise decision these days
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12-14-2022, 11:47 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
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This team’s lack of preparation in the first five to seven minutes of every game is absolutely insane. Very un-Sutter like and definitely a trend at this point. Sutter’s inability to adjust a system to his player’s strengths is very concerning. Not sure if he’s lost the room but the team’s sloppy, uninterested play seems to indicate so. Seems like a crash course this season for Sutter being fired/walking away and Tre being canned.
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12-14-2022, 11:48 PM
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#186
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Participant 
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Not singling you out, but I really dislike this take.
Fanbases can suffer and be frustrated and be vocal about that and still be every bit as much of a fan as the ‘optimists’. If you can’t do that on a forum among your fellow fans then where can you?
Would it be more fun on this board if it was just homogenous, blind optimism?
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You can do whatever you want, why do you have a problem with me (or people like me) doing whatever I want? Someone asked how someone can be an optimist, I answered how. I never said you can’t be a fan of you’re not an optimist, but I honestly don’t understand why you’d be a fan if you weren’t having fun. That seems like a really silly way to waste your time. “What are you up to tonight?” “I’m going to spend 2 hours watching a team I hate watching play a sport I barely like and then sit on the internet talking about how much I dislike that team.”
Incredibly cool stuff. I can’t think of anything less rewarding.
And to be honest, yeah, it would probably be more fun if we were all just blind optimists who just had fun watching the game. It kind of sucks reading through the same repetitive complaints by the same 20 people bumping the same dumb threads, but it’s fun to make fun of at least. As long as we’re all having fun, whatever that looks like is cool.
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12-14-2022, 11:48 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
For years? I love this place.
Not even 30 games in, waking up a point out of a playoff spot tomorrow morning and they're "done for years".
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If this is Huberdeau; than yes, for years.
How do you see it playing out with his contract and performance? Be specific.
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12-14-2022, 11:49 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
It's worrisome because this is what Gulutzan used to do. Get everything to the net and we dominate advanced stats.
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Oh yeah, Gulutzan. I swear that guy coached to chase advanced stats thinking that if you have the metrics, success will follow. In reality, advanced stats just tell you what happened, but not what will happen. If they simply play well and execute, the positive stats naturally follow. I really doubt that is what Sutter does.
I think the Flames more or less outplayed the Canucks tonight just going by my armchair eye test. We just gave up a couple of easy goals. That's pretty much it.
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12-14-2022, 11:49 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryred
Meh rather a point than no point on to the next game
Sent from my SM-G990U1 using Tapatalk
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Well obviously. But if that’s the barometer every game…
There are some we should be happy with just a point.
There are some we should be disappointed with just a point.
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12-14-2022, 11:49 PM
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#190
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
So, any Flames fans in this thread?
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Everyone? Nobody's posting in a PGT on a message board from the 2000's if they're not a fan.
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12-14-2022, 11:50 PM
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#191
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Participant 
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Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG
Costs nothing to be pessimistic about the team either, especially when the evidence points that way. Doesn’t make me less of a fan. At the end of the day, we all want this franchise to succeed. You just choose to be optimistic in the darkest of times. I do not.
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People who are often pessimistic are at greater risk for heart disease, among other medical conditions.
So I wouldn’t say it costs nothing.
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12-14-2022, 11:50 PM
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#192
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
If this is Huberdeau; than yes, for years.
How do you see it playing out with his contract and performance? Be specific.
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He can’t. The Huberdeau signing so far is an epic debacle. That’s no overstatement.
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12-14-2022, 11:51 PM
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#193
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
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I'm not shocked at all. I'm actually surprised most of the time when I see they have a high shot total because it sure doesn't feel like most the shots they get are quality shots.
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12-14-2022, 11:51 PM
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#194
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
It's just weird to me that a Flames fan can watch this team from 2006 to 2013 and think that it's a good strategy to just make the playoffs and then "anything can happen".
Either this team is constructed well or it isn't. I don't think a team limping into the playoffs is constructed well.
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Different kind of 'just get in and anything can happen'
During that time, the Flames just weren't good enough - 8th was the bes they could hope for, then a 1st round exit was the likely outcome
This team is more like the LA teams, with lots of depth, deep defense, plenty of grit, and good goaltending (at least expected to be). It is a team that, if firing on all cylinders, would cause any team fits.
It is very much a team that can make a deep playoff run
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12-14-2022, 11:51 PM
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#195
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by iggypop
Legit, who’s everyone’s favourite flame right now? I can’t name anyone lol.
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Rasmus
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12-14-2022, 11:53 PM
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#196
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Here is a scenario:
Flames enter the lottery --> win first overall --> select Connor Bedard --> fanbase is excited to watch their new franchise player.... --> Sutter sends Bedard back to the minors in favour of players like Lewis and Lucic. Because Bedard needs to play in the minors for a few years and earn his spot.
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12-14-2022, 11:55 PM
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#197
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
WTF is this team?
Need a stats guy to tell me not to panic. Otherwise I’m definitely panicking
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zamler
Someone comfort me with stats. Advanced stats. The soothing kind.
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Uh we generate high shot volume and have a decent expected goals against. Don't ask about the quality of those shots, goaltending, expected goals for, but they have those fundamentals of Sutter hockey down
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
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12-14-2022, 11:55 PM
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#198
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Different kind of 'just get in and anything can happen'
During that time, the Flames just weren't good enough - 8th was the bes they could hope for, then a 1st round exit was the likely outcome
This team is more like the LA teams, with lots of depth, deep defense, plenty of grit, and good goaltending (at least expected to be). It is a team that, if firing on all cylinders, would cause any team fits.
It is very much a team that can make a deep playoff run
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It's really not the same at all not even close.
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12-14-2022, 11:55 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
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I believe Flames lost tonight coast to coast in the US on TNT.
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12-14-2022, 11:55 PM
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#200
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Feb 2019
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Watching them live makes u want to vomit
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