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Old 11-22-2022, 01:34 PM   #581
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If the Flames players were outscoring the Johhny and Tkachuk gang, you can bet CP would say it matters.

Let's face it, Johhny and Tkachuk are elite offensive players. Moving on did not affect their offense.
Well I don't remember much bragging about 115 and 104 points after game 5 of round two

Also Gaudreau is on pace for 82 points and a big fat minus


Points matter when they get you the W

Were the Avs upset that McDrai outscored everyone on their team last season?
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Old 11-22-2022, 03:11 PM   #582
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True, but even with the team struggling..Flames are still ahead of Panthers, Canadiens, Blue Jackets in the standings. Those individual points matter less, than wins.
Comparing Calagry's team to Montreal and BJ's is silly, as those teams were never going to contend.

Montreal had a get a 1st round pick to take Monny, and he's outscoring Hubby.
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Comparing Calagry's team to Montreal and BJ's is silly, as those teams were never going to contend.



Montreal had a get a 1st round pick to take Monny, and he's outscoring Hubby.
Good for Monahan, but this is not a trend that seems likely to continue. It also doesn't change the fact that he no longer really had a place on the Flames roster. He needed to get moved; the Flames paid what was necessary to make it happen.

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Comparing Calagry's team to Montreal and BJ's is silly, as those teams were never going to contend.

Montreal had a get a 1st round pick to take Monny, and he's outscoring Hubby.
Huberdeau's advanced stats are very good. Out of forwards with 200 mins or more at ES he's 6th best in GA. He's been on the ice for 5 goals against. Monahan 17.

Scoring chances against, High dangers against are all looking good. Overall, they are good too, but he isn't creating as much as you would like

xGF% - 52.12
SCF% - 53.89
HDCF% - 57.35
GF% - 64.29

Huberdeau eventually will get going offensively, when he does his numbers will be elite across the board.

Monahan's numbers are bad but Montreal probably hoping to flip him at the deadline, so they'll keep playing him.
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Old 11-22-2022, 05:56 PM   #586
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Comparing Calagry's team to Montreal and BJ's is silly, as those teams were never going to contend.

Montreal had a get a 1st round pick to take Monny, and he's outscoring Hubby.
Comparing their points like it means Monahan is a better player is also silly

They paid a first because nobody would take him for less
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Old 11-22-2022, 06:51 PM   #587
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Should the NJ Devils be getting some props here? They made a play for both Johnny and Matthew, got neither, and now they’re beating everyone in the league.

Kind of strange how things work out sometimes…
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Should the NJ Devils be getting some props here? They made a play for both Johnny and Matthew, got neither, and now they’re beating everyone in the league.

Kind of strange how things work out sometimes…
They are probably better for it in the long run. Money to pay their young stars.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:48 PM   #589
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Should the NJ Devils be getting some props here? They made a play for both Johnny and Matthew, got neither, and now they’re beating everyone in the league.

Kind of strange how things work out sometimes…
NJ is playing great, but there is a funny wrinkle when it comes to these historically long winning streaks—more often than not, these teams fail to make the playoffs.

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NJ is playing great, but there is a funny wrinkle when it comes to these historically long winning streaks—more often than not, these teams fail to make the playoffs.

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the Devils have the best underlying numbers in the league, and it's not even close relative to second place.
They are simultaneously the #1 team in xGF and xGA, so they're not exactly riding a hot streak... they're kust out chancing their opponents . Last year they had poor goaltending but they corrected that.

Regardless of their headstart with the streak, they're executing at a Cup Favourite level. Maybe their PP cools off or something but they'll still a tough matchup all season.
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the Devils have the best underlying numbers in the league, and it's not even close relative to second place.
They are simultaneously the #1 team in xGF and xGA, so they're not exactly riding a hot streak... they're kust out chancing their opponents . Last year they had poor goaltending but they corrected that.

Regardless of their headstart with the streak, they're executing at a Cup Favourite level. Maybe their PP cools off or something but they'll still a tough matchup all season.
True but they've had an easy schedule thus far. They'll make the playoffs and be a contender, but I don't think they'll be in the running for the Presidents Trophy come March/April.
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Still annoyed by the OT penalty in Calgary...could have been the end of the streak right there
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the Devils have the best underlying numbers in the league, and it's not even close relative to second place.
They are simultaneously the #1 team in xGF and xGA, so they're not exactly riding a hot streak... they're kust out chancing their opponents . Last year they had poor goaltending but they corrected that.

Regardless of their headstart with the streak, they're executing at a Cup Favourite level. Maybe their PP cools off or something but they'll still a tough matchup all season.
easiest strength of schedule in the league is a factor in all these numbers...I wouldn't call them a cup contender just yet. Good shot at being a playoff team though.
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Old 11-23-2022, 08:16 PM   #596
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Monahan got his fifth goal of the season in the Canadiens win over Johnny and the Blue Jackets. Gaudreau was held off the scoresheet.
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Ok i have to admit I was 100% wrong about Tkachuk. I truly didn't think he was going to get 75 points this year.

Another 2 points for 27 this year. and of course 0 points for Bennett in a win... haha
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:15 AM   #598
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Meanwhile Gaudreau is under PPG...I thought he would outscore Tkachuk for sure
to be fair though it is much easier to put up points in the Panthers system...style and line mates

I took the under on 99.5 with both, should be interesting

Florida's schedule couldn't have been much easier so far though...might get both still but Tkachuk surprisingly is more worrying at this point
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Ok i have to admit I was 100% wrong about Tkachuk. I truly didn't think he was going to get 75 points this year.

Another 2 points for 27 this year. and of course 0 points for Bennett in a win... haha
Bahahahahah 15 points for Bennett in 20 games, what a LOSER!!!!!!!!!!
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Meanwhile Gaudreau is under PPG...I thought he would outscore Tkachuk for sure
to be fair though it is much easier to put up points in the Panthers system...style and line mates

I took the under on 99.5 with both, should be interesting

Florida's schedule couldn't have been much easier so far though...might get both still but Tkachuk surprisingly is more worrying at this point
Yeah, I had Gaudreau as being more productive than Tkachuk as well. Although, side note, I think if you mention schedule or strength of schedule 3 more times this forum self implodes and we lose Calgarypuck.

Seriously man, its absolutely bonkers how many times you've uttered those words this season.
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