Former Flames player performance thread - 2022/23 season

[DeluxeMoustache]

If there was a post season press box hat flipping captain, he would be my top choice 10 times out of 10

[tvp2003]

Barkov is under contract until 2030. If being a captain was so important to him, he picked the wrong team to be traded to.

[JD]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Barkov is under contract until 2030. If being a captain was so important to him, he picked the wrong team to be traded to.

Yup, since that bit of "news" emerged, this fact seems to have been ignored. He's got zero chance of being Florida's captain any time soon either.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by JD

Yup, since that bit of "news" emerged, this fact seems to have been ignored. He's got zero chance of being Florida's captain any time soon either.

He cares more about flip flops and golf carts than the C.

[mile]

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...th-the-weather

“At the end of the day, I really don’t want to get into too much of that,” Tkachuk replied when asked about his old boss. “But I will say coming down here and coming to a new environment and getting a chance to work with Paul (Maurice), it has been unbelievable playing for a guy like that. I really enjoy it. He is definitely my favourite one I’ve had throughout my whole NHL career. He’s obviously on me a lot and he expects the best out of me, but he does it right where he’s on me and then positive and he has a great feel for the room. And I think that’s one of the other positives I’ve seen coming down here is just the way he’s able to read a room and get the best out of all of us we all just love so much playing for him. I feel super lucky to have him as the coach.



“And Bill (Zito), as well, he’s an unbelievable GM. I have been super lucky with my two GMs so far, to have Tre and Bill. They’re both unbelievable guys and unbelievable at what they do.”

[The Yen Man]

It's kind of telling of the relationship too when Sutter made the comment the difference between Toffoli and Chucky about how one has won cups, and the other hasn't achieved anything yet in the playoffs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Of course, he loves Paul, Paul loves regular season wins and points just like Chunky.

Hopefully Zadorov puts him through the boards on Saturday.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wonder if Maurice still thinks Tkachuk cut Scheifele on purpose.

[Burning Beard]

Maurice is such a goober.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mile

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...th-the-weather

To be fair his Maurice is a much better coach than any coaches he played for with the Flames outside of Darryl. Definitely some subtle shots at Sutter and truthfully Darryl isn't for everyone. Like I said before it's all about the playoffs for the Panthers and Matthew. The Panthers haven't played well in the playoffs and neither has Matthew so they have a lot to prove still.

[JD]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

He cares more about flip flops and golf carts than the C.

Yup his quotes since the trade seem to confirm this.

He's performing well and let's be honest, he's a good player. His strength is being strong on the puck and making smart plays in the neutral zone. And he's got some hands around the net. Those things will always get him points in the regular season, particularly in the early part. We've seen what he can do in the playoffs; almost nothing.

Now, Huberdeau is pretty similar in terms of playoff history, so we needn't get ahead of ourselves. But I like the chip on his shoulder he seems to be developing, from the surprise trade to the Sutter dump comment. He seems like a guy who's becoming MORE motivated.

Tkachuk on the other hand, he seems like a guy who's getting pretty, pretty, comfortable.

[Kasi]

I think it’s a little early to compare how either will do in the playoffs til they actually get there or talk about how they’re motivated. For now Tkachuk is having a better regular season but that only matters for actually getting playoff seeding. I am fairly sure both teams will make the playoffs but both will likely be lower seeded than last year. They’ll have to beat better teams early on to advance.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'll be honest, at this point, I would rather have Tkachuk long term over Huberdeau and Weegar when you consider quality, age, and term.

If the rumour about Tkachuk wanting to move on because he was never going to be captain are true, that would be a downer. I would have just let him be captain in that case and signed him.

I have no idea if that rumour is true, so given that he was heading out the door anyway, I like the trade. But I will always wonder if it was really necessary.

Not sure that's the type of culture I want to create in the dressing room if we're awarding C's like that.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Dude had every opportunity to be a leader. Doesn't take a C to be a leader.

[SuperMatt18]

Meh. I take everything that Tkachuk says in the media with a grain of salt.

He knows how to paint himself in the best possible light in the media at all times.

I know at least one former Flames player didn't like the difference from his media and locker room persona, and I know at least one team member didn't like his over expressive press box reactions when the team lost to Dallas in the bubble when he was hurt.

Don't think he liked being second fiddle behind Gio, and then Gaudreau-Lindholm in his time here in Calgary. And don't think he liked that the story was about "Sutter" being the leader of the team, and not him.

[sa226]

Everything we've ever heard about Sutter is that he's tough, very tough. But fair, and you always know where you stand with him and why.

Most of the Sutter "games" are media related.

So you have a former player that hasn't won anything and hasn't performed well when things matter, that perhaps beefed with his old coach who has a whole career track record of success. Now he's singing the praises of his new coach who also hasn't won anything.

Got it.

Also not too much shade for Tkachuk, he's also pretty media savvy so he's got to give the reporter what they're looking for.

I think the kid has some entitlement issues.

[Toonage]

Tkachuk tells you what he knows you want to hear. That's his deal.

That he does it with an air of innocence bothers me a bunch.

When its time for the rubber to hit the road he never, ever, backed it up.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Dude had every opportunity to be a leader. Doesn't take a C to be a leader.

Being a leader without a letter doesn't fit his brand. He needs the C for the Matthew Tkachuk brand.

HIs swipes at Sutter also show how he isn't a leader, and I think he has hurt feelings because Johnny got a lot of attention, Lindholm was runner up to the Selke, Sutter won the Jack Adams, but nothing for the Tkachuk brand.

You probably won't win any championships with a guy is in it for himself and his image.

A lot of players have had success with lower point totals with Sutter and you didn't hear them cry to the media. Even when Iggy was wearing the C a lot of people credited Sutter as being the real leader in the room, and Jarome set the example on the ice.

I love how he says Maurice gets the most out of his players, you just had a 106-point season 30 better than previous career best and got a big fat contract but its Maurice who is the best coach ever.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Dude had every opportunity to be a leader. Doesn't take a C to be a leader.

He was made an alternate captain along with Backlund, Monahan, and Tanev, so the other players and coaches seem to hold him in pretty high regard. It certainly puts how they put his leadership abilities into perspective.

As for people ripping on him in the playoffs, it's not like Huberdeau or Weegar had great playoffs last year. Tkachuk was actually reasonable productive. Being a good playoff performer tends to come with age and experience, and he is only 24. Early returns for the playoffs haven't been bad all things considered.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

He was made an alternate captain along with Backlund, Monahan, and Tanev, so the other players and coaches seem to hold him in pretty high regard. It certainly puts how they put his leadership abilities into perspective.

As for people ripping on him in the playoffs, it's not like Huberdeau or Weegar had great playoffs last year. Tkachuk was actually reasonable productive. Being a good playoff performer tends to come with age and experience, and he is only 24. Early returns for the playoffs haven't been bad all things considered.

Tkachuk had 4 goals all playoffs and they came in 2 games we played 11 games. He was invisible for the rest of it, the only other shift I remember was in Game 1 when they pinned the Stars to kill the clock to win the game.

Huberdeau and Weegar played one of the best goalies in the NHL and the reigning champs.