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			Pregame link (Cheese has the other 3 links in his awesome post)
https://www.espn.com/nhl/preview/_/gameId/401458765
  
 
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			11-05-2022, 08:44 AM
			
			
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			1. Go back to the original lines. 
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			11-05-2022, 08:45 AM
			
			
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			I’m going to PVR it. If they decide to show up tonight then maybe I’ll watch it later.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-05-2022, 08:52 AM
			
			
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				I’m going to PVR it. If they decide to show up tonight then maybe I’ll watch it later. 
			
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It's Saturday, and the Flames are on HNIC. I PVR most games and stay off of SM before watching them later, and win or lose I can't imagine opting out of watching the Flames on HNIC, ever. I could understand if it was February and the team was awful. But, it's the first week of November.
 
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			11-05-2022, 09:39 AM
			
			
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			Sutter need to play two pairs tbh 
 
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			11-05-2022, 09:54 AM
			
			
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			Must at the very least look like a competent hockey team. Since the Carolina game they’ve just looked bad, except for the oilers game but the oilers are terrible and any team looks good against them. 
 
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			11-05-2022, 10:04 AM
			
			
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			11-05-2022, 10:28 AM
			
			
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			11-05-2022, 10:29 AM
			
			
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			My thoughts are: 
- potential Stanley cup matchup 
- flames need to bounce back after a couple of tough losses 
 
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			11-05-2022, 10:38 AM
			
			
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			The Flames were winning home games on this stand without playing particularly well, then they started losing with bad habits. 
 
Now it's clear they're not playing all that well, but Sutter should have little difficulty getting their attention. 
 
But on top of that there are some unsustainable things happening with key Calgary forwards. 
 
If you rank the top 300 NHL forwards in ice time by GF/60 - xGF60 (actual results vs indications of what results should have been) ... the Flames have four of the worst converting forwards in the league. 
 
13. Lindholm 
21. Huberdeau 
32. Mangiapane 
42. Coleman 
 
That's 4 of the top 42 in a 32 team league. 
 
Generally elite players out play their expected numbers with skill.  
 
They haven't looked good, but they're also not finishing at the level that the chances they are generating suggest.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-05-2022, 10:57 AM
			
			
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			11-05-2022, 11:16 AM
			
			
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			Oh crap not the devils 
 
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			11-05-2022, 11:19 AM
			
			
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Dube and Kadri are the only positive players actually ... both on the strength of Kadri filling the net early.
 
# is the rank
 
Row Labels	Sum of GF-xGF	Sum of # 
Elias Lindholm	-1.69	13 
Jonathan Huberdeau	-1.37	21 
Andrew Mangiapane	-1.17	32 
Blake Coleman	-0.93	42 
Tyler Toffoli	-0.5	87 
Mikael Backlund	-0.11	142 
Dillon Dube	0.41	205 
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			11-05-2022, 11:31 AM
			
			
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			11-05-2022, 11:34 AM
			
			
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			This team needs some energy, big time. If that can't come from within the room why not call up a kid or two?  If only to inject some youth and energy.  Flames have been flat now 2 games in a row, thats crazy to me.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-05-2022, 11:35 AM
			
			
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			Amy news on Tanev? Saying upper body.  I wonder if it's the surgically repaired shoulder?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-05-2022, 11:40 AM
			
			
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			We sure miss Tanev. I like seeing the projected lines back to where they were. 
 
I've watched the last 3 games live and all were L's. Safe to say I'll skip the game tonight. We need that W. 
 
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			11-05-2022, 11:42 AM
			
			
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			11-05-2022, 11:54 AM
			
			
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			Come back Tanev! I'd say he is the most important Flame at this point.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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