[PGT] Flames blow a 3rd period lead again, lose 5-4 to Seattle

[Paulie Walnuts]

But apparently Huberdeau sucks and doesn't care lol. At least he is seeing what we are seeing on the ice they are chasing way too much, need the puck on our sticks in the offensive. It's just not him the D have to be much more aggressive at the blueline.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

But apparently Huberdeau sucks and doesn't care lol. At least he is seeing what we are seeing on the ice they are chasing way too much, need the puck on our sticks in the offensive. It's just not him the D have to be much more aggressive at the blueline.

And to show some goddamned urgency!

The last few minutes of last nights game? That was brutal.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I thought those guys were gone.

Guys that like to drink in excess? Don't think those are ever truly gone haha.

But I really doubt they were hungover at 7:30 on a Wednesday night.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The party was Sunday? How could they still be hungover on Tuesday at 7:00 PM?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

But apparently Huberdeau sucks and doesn't care lol. At least he is seeing what we are seeing on the ice they are chasing way too much, need the puck on our sticks in the offensive. It's just not him the D have to be much more aggressive at the blueline.

Originally Posted by Locke

And to show some goddamned urgency!

The last few minutes of last nights game? That was brutal.

Top 9 forwards seem to all be gripping their sticks too tight (maybe Kadri being the only exclusion).

Really haven't seen a lot of production from any of them at 5v5 and starting to cheat a little too much to try to generate.

Dube: 0
Lucic: 0
Coleman: 0
Lindholm: 0
Huberdeau: 0
Toffoli - 1
Mangiapane - 2
Backlund-2
Kadri- 3

8 goals between that group at 5v5 so far in the season is pretty poor overall, Ritchie (3) and Lewis (2) production have helped mask things a little.

Problem being that it hasn't been generation that's the issue, but finishing, so they don't need to cheat they just need to finish the chances.

[blankall]

Biggest problem is on defence. The Flames absolutely should not be giving up 5 goals to a team like Seattle. Offence was solid. They consistently brought the puck to Seattle net and were rewarded, even when bounces weren't going their way....then they just collapsed defensively after gaining the 4-2 lead.

[カナダ人です]

Originally Posted by Draug

But what brings this bizarrely timed tangent into this thread?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Ya, after noodling on it a bit I think Sutter needs to lay the hammer down a bit.

The lacklustre effort is not acceptable.

Laying down the hammer is a good way to lose the room. Maybe he already laid down the hammer. These guys just have to play together and work through it; they're not the only team that loses games. I think we're spoiled and used to seeing Sutter`s hard-working teams that we've become quite critical when they don't play well. Let's give the team some rope and give them a bit more room to figure things out.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Laying down the hammer is a good way to lose the room. Maybe he already laid down the hammer. These guys just have to play together and work through it; they're not the only team that loses games. I think we're spoiled and used to seeing Sutter`s hard-working teams that we've become quite critical when they don't play well. Let's give the team some rope and give them a bit more room to figure things out.

Man...Sutter must have the patience of a Saint because if I was the Coach after that game they'd have had to repaint the dressing room.

[DazzlinDino]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Man...Sutter must have the patience of a Saint because if I was the Coach after that game they'd have had to repaint the dressing room.

It may have gotten repainted between periods. You can only lay down the hammer so many times before the team stops responding all together. The players want to win, they are probably just discouraged and frustrated right now trying to figure things out. It is a good group of guys they just have to work out the details and finish their assignments better. We are letting in way too many goals I'm sure that's a big issue for Sutter. We had enough goals to win the game, yet some are upset at the lack of production. I think once you get the details figured out they can relax a bit and play their game, but when things break down it can be discouraging for sure.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

The Elliotte Friedman rule: US Thanksgiving is when you look at a team and the standings

Nope. The Peter Maher rule.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Mightyfire89

Being a fan since the team moved here from Atlanta and living through the huge ups and downs of the 80s and then the dark 90s, I gotta say folks, it’s very early. The criticisms are legitimate so far but maybe give the guys some time to gel. Huge upheaval this off season, big players out, new guys in. It might take more time than I thought for everything to come together.

This is a very good team. Huberdeau didn’t get 115 pts by accident playing with Sam Bennett and…whoever. He’ll come around and show he’s a huge asset, I’m sure. Kadri is kicking serious ass so far. Weegar is what he is, seems solid but prone to the occasional brain fart. Darryl knows what he’s doing. He’s trying different things to shake it up. He’ll figure it out. Give them a chance for Pete’s sake (whoever Pete is).

It is not Pete. It is Peter.

Peter Maher.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Titan2

It is not Pete. It is Peter.

Peter Maher.

it's actually pet.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by カナダ人です

That’s Kevin Kline.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

D’Accord was great tonight, on that we agree

The problem is that the other goalie has been better than our goalie, every game.

It doesn't matter if the goals are weak (only a few have actually been 'weak'), but the bottom line is that they are paid to stop the puck. And the other goalie is stopping more pucks than our goalies are.

Weak or not weak, they aren't making enough saves.

[Enoch Root]

Last night reminded me a lot of the Gulutzan thru Ward era, and prior:

• They are not moving the puck up ice quickly, instead they are exiting the dzone and moving through the neutral zone as a 5 man unit, in a very plodding manner.
• The opposing D are pinching at will, because there is no threat of speed from the Flames
• The Flames D is not pinching enough, their gaps are huge, and they're giving up two zones without any defensive engagement. And to make it worse, when they DO pinch, they are making bad decisions.

The primary difference between Sutter hockey and the prior regimes, IMO, is the way they play up-tempo, keep gaps tight, and push forward all the time. But right now, that is not happening.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Last night reminded me a lot of the Gulutzan thru Ward era, and prior:

• They are not moving the puck up ice quickly, instead they are exiting the dzone and moving through the neutral zone as a 5 man unit, in a very plodding manner.
• The opposing D are pinching at will, because there is no threat of speed from the Flames
• The Flames D is not pinching enough, their gaps are huge, and they're giving up two zones without any defensive engagement. And to make it worse, when they DO pinch, they are making bad decisions.

The primary difference between Sutter hockey and the prior regimes, IMO, is the way they play up-tempo, keep gaps tight, and push forward all the time. But right now, that is not happening.

Agreed 100% I was thinking Gulatzun but didn't want to speak that evil name.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The problem is that the other goalie has been better than our goalie, every game.

It doesn't matter if the goals are weak (only a few have actually been 'weak'), but the bottom line is that they are paid to stop the puck. And the other goalie is stopping more pucks than our goalies are.

Weak or not weak, they aren't making enough saves.

This is just describing winning and losing in general.

[Tsawwassen]

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[Tsawwassen]

Postgame links
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl...v-01-1.6637421
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/games/2465793/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/recap/_/gameId/401458737