[News] CSEC and City of Calgary agree to restart formal discussions on new arena

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

The new premier wants to buy some votes… 500 million towards a new event centre please. They thrown money around like drunken sailors on lots of useless, stupid things so this will be money well spent for a change.

She doesn't care about the arena in any way. It's no mystery why she's jumping on now, it's clear that the deal is going to get done, easy points for her to start saying this now and she can turn and tell everyone how she helped get it going, and dum dums are going to fall for it.

An arena for 4 years of Smith is not a trade I'd make because she has no say, input or influence on this project.

Originally Posted by Dion

I'm in full agreement. Let's get the damned thing built.

The province didn't give any money to Edmonton I don't believe. They have nothing to do with any of this and neither does Smith.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I hope they name it the Climate Pledge Arena.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

She doesn't care about the arena in any way. It's no mystery why she's jumping on now, it's clear that the deal is going to get done, easy points for her to start saying this now and she can turn and tell everyone how she helped get it going, and dum dums are going to fall for it.

This is the essence of politics. A politician, they say, is someone who looks for a parade and then gets in front of it.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by getbak

The Herald talks to Neil deMause, the author of Field of Schemes, about the city's decision to hire CAA ICON as a “deal structure adviser.”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...otiating-table

I finally read this article - it actually brought me hope in that at least one side is trying something different if not both. I was worried that both sides would pick up where they left off with the same exact people - and that we'd inevitably endup dead in the water as before. I only hope the City listens to the experts they brought in.

I know I've been critical of both sides, especially the Flames in the past but this time I've decided to try and be more balanced as I've come to grips that some element of public money will be needed if we want a downtown arena. That and I realized there are a lot of factors about this arena deal that we as the public aren't privy to and it's pointless to make incomplete opinions.

Lets git er' done!

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by getbak

They better not waste any time rehashing any previous ideas or anything that isn't about building the new arena 2 blocks north of the Saddledome.

The moment anyone mentions CalgaryNext or the West Village, the CAA ICON/City people should stand up and walk out and tell them to call when they're ready to get serious.

I still want 2 blocks further north at the Remington Jeff Davison Innovation Lot Lands. It's a rare opportunity to mitigate 150 meters of heavy rail exposure (arena south side/parkade north side - concourse spanning the tracks and probably tunnels underneath, too).

It would be pretty close to all 3 of Blue/Red/Green lines, at least 2 big city-owned parkades on 9 Ave, and plenty of surface parking to the south. And we wouldn't need to remove the beautiful trees on the current site.

And it would probably mean swapping the bus barn lands to Remington, who is at least in the RE business and more likely to make something of that parcel than the guys behind Cnext and a decade of debacle.

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1585359026011111425

[Erick Estrada]

So the dam needs to be priority one and kind of wishy washy (willing to look at the business case) on the arena after.

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

If Smith is premier for 4 plus years you’ll probably need more than a hard hat when you leave the arena.

The Sovereignty Arena

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So the dam needs to be priority one and kind of wishy washy (willing to look at the business case) on the arena after.

I agree that the Dam absolutely needs to be funded prior to any vanity infrastructure projects. Then yeah, a business case listing benefit from provincial prospective because it would be bloody irresponsible for the province to commit money without one.

[Wormius]

Ah, memories of swamp castle king from Holy Grail.

“I built ye a arena and then it flooded and washed it away, so I built ye another and the flood took that away too, then I built the next arena on top of the ruins and there ye have it!”

[Royle9]

Oh thank god we got comments from Notley on this.
Now I’ll be able to sleep tonight and the arena project can start.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Oh thank god we got comments from Notley on this.
Now I’ll be able to sleep tonight

Well, I like seeing the diversity in responses from our two major party leaders, on a project that absolutely matters to us hockey fans and will be an important infrastructure project for the Flames for many decades going forward. That's just me though.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1585359026011111425

Quick question, wasn't the CRL for the East Village put into place long before Notley got anywhere near power, and the NDP extending the CRL wasn't because they agreed for the Convention Center but because the City required it added?

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Muta

Well, I like seeing the diversity in responses from our two major party leaders, on a project that absolutely matters to us hockey fans and will be an important infrastructure project for the Flames for many decades going forward. That's just me though.

Right, but the political grandstanding is a waste of time.
Politics ruin everything and both sides use this project to push their agenda.
We all know how it’s going to work out, it was a done deal on paper previously.

Get on with it.

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

Quick question, wasn't the CRL for the East Village put into place long before Notley got anywhere near power, and the NDP extending the CRL wasn't because they agreed for the Convention Center but because the City required it added?

I think the NDP gov't helped extend it to include the River's District (which the arena is a part of, but not the EV)

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Uh, there would be this little issue of having no arena for three years.

just curious why? is the dome booked/have lease for 3 years ? because a demo doesn't take 3yrs

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I hope they name it the Climate Pledge Arena.

If you you want to get something done, give it a name the rubes will get behind. Like the peace bridge.

[Flames_Gimp]

Did the previous designs include underground/indoor parkade? Rogers place has a parkade at the casino next door apparently. Sure would be nice to not have to go outside in -30 to get in from the vehicle

[memphusk]

Last time I was in the sweatpantry that casino wasn't even open.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

just curious why? is the dome booked/have lease for 3 years ? because a demo doesn't take 3yrs

Well, they would need time to build the new arena though right?