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Old 10-23-2022, 08:57 PM   #181
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Old 10-23-2022, 09:29 PM   #182
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If you look at his or her posting history I think they are referring to the simps.
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Things I learned from thread;
1. GioPM is way smarter than I am.
2. That's about it.
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Old 10-23-2022, 09:37 PM   #184
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You forgot
3. We all have to get laid apparently
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Old 10-24-2022, 12:22 AM   #185
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What about the statistics on anonymous throwaway Twitter accounts falsely accusing victims of rape?

Like sure, it’s one thing if a victim comes out and files a lawsuit or publicly goes on the record to accuse someone of rape. They are putting themselves and their reputations on the line doing that, so I would expect the rate of false accusations to be low in situation. Conversely, I also understand why a lot of those victims wouldn’t want to come forward and subject themselves to that sort of pain and suffering and would rather just move on with their lives.

But that’s not what happened in this situation. And I’m not saying that the accusation was right or wrong. But you absolutely cannot equate a random anonymous throwaway Twitter post and someone bravely coming out and putting their life and reputation on the line to hold a rapist accountable. And you absolutely cannot use statistics from latter to prove your point about the former.
You also can’t call it a “throwaway” multiple times just because you decided it was one. It was a fairly detailed account.

Again, though, this just a re-hash of “this supposed victim isn’t acting the way a good victim ought to act” which is just useless nonsense. The statistics give us the overall picture, one that this incident is part of whether anyone likes it or not, and can even provide context as to why the allegation was presented in the way it was presented. Statistics almost never “prove” anything, they’re statistics. They help form the bigger picture or support a position. Cam’s point was that automatically siding with the accused in these situations is an illogical thing to do, and the statistics support that (yes, even when it’s anonymous and online).

You’re suggesting that because there is nothing at stake for the alleged victim, the chances of it being false go up. But there’s also nothing to gain, so the chances of it being true would have to go up and then you’re right back where you started.

Since you posed the question about the statistics on it, what do you think the chances are of someone making up a detailed account of abuse against an entirely random, non-star NHL player, for reasons that had nothing to do with extorting money or costing said player anything? Do you think it’s likely to be higher than 90%?
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:25 AM   #186
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1. I’m not. Just ask Mrs. GioforPM. Also if I am so smart how come I can’t figure out how to change my handle to TanevforPM.
2. OK.
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:31 AM   #187
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What about the statistics on anonymous throwaway Twitter accounts falsely accusing victims of rape?

Like sure, it’s one thing if a victim comes out and files a lawsuit or publicly goes on the record to accuse someone of rape. They are putting themselves and their reputations on the line doing that, so I would expect the rate of false accusations to be low in situation. Conversely, I also understand why a lot of those victims wouldn’t want to come forward and subject themselves to that sort of pain and suffering and would rather just move on with their lives.

But that’s not what happened in this situation. And I’m not saying that the accusation was right or wrong. But you absolutely cannot equate a random anonymous throwaway Twitter post and someone bravely coming out and putting their life and reputation on the line to hold a rapist accountable. And you absolutely cannot use statistics from latter to prove your point about the former.
Seems to me when someone sues they are accused of hunting down a well known athlete for money. This person explained herself. How many other explanations can you come up with for someone going on Twitter with such a detailed account? Just to harm the reputation of …. Ian Cole of all people?

Looks to me like this was part of this person’s therapy. But she wasn’t willing to expose herself to the stuff that’s come the way of earlier complainants. Why should someone have to “put their life and reputation on the line”?
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Old 10-24-2022, 07:26 AM   #188
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You should turn in your law degree. I will keep mine, and also my gold medal from law school, and also my SCC clerkship back in the day.
I find it hard to believe anyone would post this on a message board relating to the Flames . Especially if it true lol.

And I have no idea of the relevance of it.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:33 AM   #189
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I find it hard to believe anyone would post this on a message board relating to the Flames . Especially if it true lol.

And I have no idea of the relevance of it.
I guess you should have read the stuff I responded to, questioning what I learned in law school.

And yes, it’s true. LOL.
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The clerkship is quite impressive, even if it was 500 years ago.

That's my takeaway.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:46 AM   #191
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Can we move this thread to Off Topic so it’s not at the top of Flames related threads? This thread has taken a turn into a non-NHL thread.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:47 AM   #192
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The clerkship is quite impressive, even if it was 500 years ago.

That's my takeaway.
It wasn’t quite that long ago. But let’s just say there aren’t any judges still there.
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Can we move this thread to Off Topic so it’s not at the top of Flames related threads? This thread has taken a turn into a non-NHL thread.
Easy not to click on it
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:55 AM   #194
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Easy not to click on it
It’s no longer a hockey thread. I don’t care if people want to argue about this stuff. Just put it in the appropriate forum.
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:00 AM   #195
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Pushing these conversations to "over there" wherever that might be is part of the issue.
I think it is relevant. And if people don't want to discuss it they don't have to click on it. Simple.
Not my call obviously.
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If you look at his or her posting history I think they are referring to the simps.
maybe i'm woke and non-binary
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Old 10-24-2022, 09:49 AM   #197
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aaaaaand there it is.
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1. I’m not. Just ask Mrs. GioforPM. Also if I am so smart how come I can’t figure out how to change my handle to TanevforPM.

2. OK.
Wow. For a supposed "lawyer" I would have expected you to read that post more carefully. For all any of us knows you are in fact smarter than Titan2 while still being much dumber than Mrs. GioforPM. Being one does not preclude the possibility of the other.

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Then put me on ignore. Really simple. Bye bye.
This is also a boring post. Why don't you instead try to be better?

Maybe change your signature to "The real victims are those accused of sexual assault." and be done with the subject. You can likely get a custom bumper sticker with the same message - surely a caravan of supporters will fall in behind you, honking their support for your cause!
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