Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-19-2022, 07:35 PM   #2081
EldrickOnIce
Franchise Player
 
EldrickOnIce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
Exp:
Default

Did put down $10 on a Flames win and an Oiler loss last night, which returned $47.10

Most sports books do not yet realize that Edmonton is no good, which turned out good for me.
EldrickOnIce is offline  
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to EldrickOnIce For This Useful Post:
Old 10-19-2022, 07:49 PM   #2082
klikitiklik
Scoring Winger
 
klikitiklik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cowtown
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop View Post
Dylan Hollodeck

Dylan Hauled-Away
__________________
klikitiklik is offline  
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to klikitiklik For This Useful Post:
Old 10-19-2022, 07:50 PM   #2083
TrentCrimmIndependent
Franchise Player
 
TrentCrimmIndependent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
Exp:
Default

Dylan hologram (plays go right through him)
TrentCrimmIndependent is offline  
Old 10-19-2022, 07:55 PM   #2084
midniteowl
Franchise Player
 
midniteowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain View Post
If Schremp was a big, plus skating, two-way beast. Then, yes.

Oil Stain seems to think Holloway is a big, skating two-way beast. Hmmm....where are you Oil Stain?
midniteowl is offline  
Old 10-19-2022, 08:11 PM   #2085
D as in David
Franchise Player
 
D as in David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Exp:
Default

Dylan Hall? Oy Vey!
__________________
"9 out of 10 concerns are completely unfounded."

"The first thing that goes when you lose your hands, are your fine motor skills."
D as in David is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to D as in David For This Useful Post:
Old 10-20-2022, 12:04 AM   #2086
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FiveSeven View Post
Ultra Edmonton power forward got smoked.

That’s the way to get hollowed out.
topfiverecords is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 01:07 AM   #2087
Boreal
First Line Centre
 
Boreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Exp:
Default



3 Stars from Saturday Night couldn’t be more Oiler

Oilers politburo choose their own goalie who didn’t let in a goal in a game they lost because:
1. Calgary lives rent free in their head, &
2. They have to shame their newly minted goalie with a 5 year contract, to reaffirm their status as a goalie graveyard.
Boreal is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Boreal For This Useful Post:
Old 10-20-2022, 08:07 AM   #2088
Vinny01
Franchise Player
 
Vinny01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
Exp:
Default

I have quickly developed a dislike for that weasel of a head coach they hired last year in Woodcroft. The guy carries himself with an arrogance that really irks me. I really hope last year was just the new coach bump and the Oilers fall back to their typical hot and cold play that comes with having 2 top 5 players on their team while also having an extremely mediocre blueline and goaltender.
Vinny01 is offline  
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Vinny01 For This Useful Post:
Old 10-20-2022, 08:30 AM   #2089
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

It's hysterical that Oiler fans are trying to argue that the slow start is because Woodcroft's system is more difficult, while at the same time giving him full credit for the new-coach bump they got last year. If he had immediate positive results, the system couldn't have been that difficult. (spoiler: it isn't)

He is employing the same strategies that every coach before him employed: generate speed in the neutral zone, and allow the offense to take care of itself. The defensive strategy is pretty simple: get the puck, and get it out of the zone and into the hands of the forwards in the neutral zone. The problem is that their defensemen, and their depth, aren't good. So they rely on McDavid and Draisaitl to outscore the opposition.

Anyone who thinks that is complicated is a fool.

Before ending this rant, I just want to point out that Holloway's zone starts so far this year are 28% (Selke-candidate Draisaitl's are 62%). You have a young, talented rookie, and you play him 6 minutes a night, with Devon Shore and Marcus Neimelainen, and you give them a steady diet of defensive zone starts. Some people might call that a complicated system, but I call it stupidity.

Last edited by Enoch Root; 10-20-2022 at 08:33 AM.
Enoch Root is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Enoch Root For This Useful Post:
Old 10-20-2022, 08:52 AM   #2090
Boreal
First Line Centre
 
Boreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
It's hysterical that Oiler fans are trying to argue that the slow start is because Woodcroft's system is more difficult, while at the same time giving him full credit for the new-coach bump they got last year. If he had immediate positive results, the system couldn't have been that difficult. (spoiler: it isn't)

He is employing the same strategies that every coach before him employed: generate speed in the neutral zone, and allow the offense to take care of itself. The defensive strategy is pretty simple: get the puck, and get it out of the zone and into the hands of the forwards in the neutral zone. The problem is that their defensemen, and their depth, aren't good. So they rely on McDavid and Draisaitl to outscore the opposition.

Anyone who thinks that is complicated is a fool.

Before ending this rant, I just want to point out that Holloway's zone starts so far this year are 28% (Selke-candidate Draisaitl's are 62%). You have a young, talented rookie, and you play him 6 minutes a night, with Devon Shore and Marcus Neimelainen, and you give them a steady diet of defensive zone starts. Some people might call that a complicated system, but I call it stupidity.
I’m sure either Stauffer or Oiler fans are making a false equivalency comparison of Holloway with Dube 4 years ago. Both Calgary area kids. However, Dube wasn’t in a checking role, and to Sutter’s point, he needed more time in the AHL to figure out how to be a safe player to leverage both his usefulness & his speed in playmaking.
Boreal is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:00 AM   #2091
JackIsBack
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
It's hysterical that Oiler fans are trying to argue that the slow start is because Woodcroft's system is more difficult, while at the same time giving him full credit for the new-coach bump they got last year.

Defense is more difficult... and who wants to do defense, that's not fun, especially when you can pad you stats offensively instead. Skating back into the defensive zone and picking up a guy - that seems like too much work, just coast back slowly and hopefully before you get back, the puck gets turned over and those lower class grunts can figure out a way to push the pack ahead to you. Besides, we have a 9+ million dollar defense man now - so he can take care of those jobs we just don't like to do and that certainly don't help us get the scoring title.
JackIsBack is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:04 AM   #2092
JackIsBack
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Exp:
Default

ohhhh.... and if Woodcroft expects us to do defense.... well.... Kevin Low, a man that knows a thing or two about winning - we'll just have to schedule a meeting with him to discuss our coaching situation and Woodcroft's need to teach in Bakersfield.
JackIsBack is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:08 AM   #2093
FlamesAreOne
First Line Centre
 
FlamesAreOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Exp:
Default

The Oils RR jers... woof.
FlamesAreOne is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:09 AM   #2094
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JackIsBack View Post
Defense is more difficult... and who wants to do defense, that's not fun, especially when you can pad you stats offensively instead. Skating back into the defensive zone and picking up a guy - that seems like too much work, just coast back slowly and hopefully before you get back, the puck gets turned over and those lower class grunts can figure out a way to push the pack ahead to you. Besides, we have a 9+ million dollar defense man now - so he can take care of those jobs we just don't like to do and that certainly don't help us get the scoring title.
Defense is more difficult, yes. But the point was with respect to whether Woodcroft's system is more difficult than other coaches' (specifically Sutter's). It isn't.
Enoch Root is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:12 AM   #2095
JackIsBack
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Exp:
Default

It will be interesting to see how they perform against stingy Carolina tonight... although Carolina hasn't had hard competition yet this season, they have only allowed 1 goal in each of their 3 wins and I think they go 4-0 to start the season.
JackIsBack is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:24 AM   #2096
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01 View Post
I have quickly developed a dislike for that weasel of a head coach they hired last year in Woodcroft. The guy carries himself with an arrogance that really irks me. I really hope last year was just the new coach bump and the Oilers fall back to their typical hot and cold play that comes with having 2 top 5 players on their team while also having an extremely mediocre blueline and goaltender.
He certainly has an air of arrogance about him. Things kind of fell into place for him as he benefited from the Kane boost and Smith becoming healthy. We are going to find out this season how he handles the team when they aren't playing well for a long stretch. IMO there's not nearly enough evidence to conclude he's going to be a really good NHL coach as he's already resorted to overplaying McDrai which is what the guys that got fired before him resorted to when all else failed and if that's all he's got then he's probably going to have a similar fate to Tippett and McLellan.
Erick Estrada is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:37 AM   #2097
joejoe3
First Line Centre
 
joejoe3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Wonder if Campbell gets the Flames flu on Oct 29
__________________
GO FLAMES GO!
joejoe3 is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 09:58 AM   #2098
jg13
Franchise Player
 
jg13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Oiler fans coming up with the theory that Huberdeau and Weegar lead the way in the 4AM strip club rumours when down 3-0 in the Tampa series and thats why Zito was willing to trade both ahahaha
jg13 is online now  
Old 10-20-2022, 10:22 AM   #2099
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13 View Post
Oiler fans coming up with the theory that Huberdeau and Weegar lead the way in the 4AM strip club rumours when down 3-0 in the Tampa series and thats why Zito was willing to trade both ahahaha
First of all, eye roll.

But let's say it's true for the sake of argument - that means we got them at a discounted price.

Remember when Johnny and Monahan were rumoured to be partying too much? If Treliving had traded them at that time, for that reason, it would have been a bad decision.

People like to have a good time, this isn't news. And if those players (or any other players) made a bad decision, they will learn from it.
Enoch Root is offline  
Old 10-20-2022, 10:34 AM   #2100
8sPOT
Powerplay Quarterback
 
8sPOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Most of my Oilers buddies were never happy with the off-season, mainly that once again they completely ignored their holes on the back end.

They're pretty damn jealous of how Treliving has gone about building the Flames. Not to mention having Sutter on the bench.

I just hope we get another crack at that piece of #### team in the playoffs.
8sPOT is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
e=ng , edmonton is no good , no good no good , no good no good no good , not f***ing good enough


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:08 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy