Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Macman

It went to the 6th ballot so it was close, I thought Toews was going to win. Good for Danielle Smith though in becoming the next premier, let’s see what she can do, plus we’ll have an election in a few months. Alberta will be fine either way. And like a couple posters have mentioned about Quebec, their premier says things and has some questionable policies that people don’t seem to talk about too much and not just on here either.

I actually didn’t mind Smith when she was on the radio, she’s well spoken and intelligent even if you don’t agree with everything she says. Let’s see what will happen and how things go.

She is not intelligent. That's ridiculous. I too listened to her on the radio, except maybe I just pay attention more than you? Like the time she was talking to a Frasier Institute stooge and they both went on and on about how high our taxes are compared to the US, all while either lying, or being too dumb to know how tax brackets work. And leaving health care out of their calculations, lying to the audience. I'm sure many bought it. It was wild.

Then you have her cancer comments. Oh, and her drum banging about "alternate" covid treatments, which all turned out to be garbage. And her ridiculous decision to avoid getting a covid vaccine. Like, she can't even listen to experts. Real, smart people saying "do this, save our healthcare system, don't get sick". Don't you want a premier who listens to experts? And what does she do? Puts it off fore months, then goes to the US for a J&J vaccine, which turned out to be one of the most ineffective. And you call this person smart? She is not. No wonder Alberta is in the state it is, when people are so easily fooled.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Macman

It went to the 6th ballot so it was close, I thought Toews was going to win. Good for Danielle Smith though in becoming the next premier, let’s see what she can do, plus we’ll have an election in a few months. Alberta will be fine either way. And like a couple posters have mentioned about Quebec, their premier says things and has some questionable policies that people don’t seem to talk about too much and not just on here either.

I actually didn’t mind Smith when she was on the radio, she’s well spoken and intelligent even if you don’t agree with everything she says. Let’s see what will happen and how things go.

Intelligent? The person who made those ridiculous comments about Cancer, intelligent?

The person who said “the evidence shows moderate cigarette consumption can reduce traditional risks of disease by 75 per cent or more.” Intelligent?

These types of comments have nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing, they are straight up idiotic.

For once it'd be great if people in this province stopped ignoring the massive problems with people like Smith as leaders, because they have their name on a blue sign. It's embarrassing.

[PsYcNeT]

This is the least surprising outcome, because Alberta Conservatives will always vote for the loudest buffoon in the running, of whom Smith was in spades this go around.

[Izzle]

She made a comment about how the NDP - liberal coalition voted to triple the carbon tax. But here's the thing, the carbon tax currently is at $50 per tonne. It's set to increase by $15 every year till it reaches $170/tonne by year 2030. That tripling happens gradually over the next 8 years. But conservatives imply that it's going to triple next year. That's the kind of disingenuous politick-talk that she likes to go head first in. The sole reason to say that it's tripling is to keep the base angry.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Where does a born in Calgary, lifelong right of centre social conservative go now?

I give up.

All I ask is that my candidates be normal. Is that too much to ask?

The Alberta Party if they can get their #### together for this next election.

[Smartcar]

Rats. Two months of putting up with non stop spam emails texts and calls for nothing.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The Alberta Party if they can get their #### together for this next election.

Spoiler alert: they can’t.

I have no idea why, but even though the vast majority of people are in the political wilderness in the middle, our choice is basically two polar opposites in the NDP and Wildrose.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Slava

Spoiler alert: they can’t.

I have no idea why, but even though the vast majority of people are in the political wilderness in the middle, our choice is basically two polar opposites in the NDP and Wildrose.

Want to explain to me how if the Wildrose are far-right, the NDP are far-left?

If anything the NDP are left-of-centre if not in the centre.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Where does a born in Calgary, lifelong right of centre social conservative go now?

I give up.

All I ask is that my candidates be normal. Is that too much to ask?

Poor you.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Macman

I actually didn’t mind Smith when she was on the radio, she’s well spoken and intelligent even if you don’t agree with everything she says. Let’s see what will happen and how things go.

Tell me you never listened to Danielle Smith on the radio without telling me you never listened to Danielle Smith on the radio......

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...laim-1.5506187

"BREAKING: New controlled clinical study conducted by doctors in France shows that hydroxychloroquine cures 100 per cent of coronavirus patients within six days of treatment," she wrote on Saturday, with a link to a blog that reports on technology startups. That tweet was deleted after it received a flood of criticism.

[Muta]

Yeah the Alberta NDP are now the centre party in this province. People need to take off their color blinders when it comes to Notley and her party - they are far, far right of the federal NDP. Heck, Peter Lougheed, one of the most revered PC premiers in this province, was Notley's mentor. Notley's party is socially progressive, pro science, pro health care, pro culture, pro business, pro oil and gas, pro energy, and pro economy.

Hey guess what, the ANDP sounds almost exactly like the old PCs. Do the ol' PC supporters hate hearing that? IF so... maybe time to open your eyes.

[btimbit]

If the Alberta NDP changed it's name, so many people would take the blinders off and realize it's actually exactly what they're looking for.


I too once held out hope that the Alberta Party would gain traction as a centrist party, and it was looking good at one point, but as soon as it just became the party of misfit conservatives, the writing was on the wall. They're dead in the water

[puffnstuff]

I was sent a message from a friend last night after her speech,

'I feel like the federal government wishes it has the powers smith says it does'

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Slava

Spoiler alert: they can’t.

I have no idea why, but even though the vast majority of people are in the political wilderness in the middle, our choice is basically two polar opposites in the NDP and Wildrose.

I get that the spectrum in Alberta is heavily tilted to the right, but the NDP is only far left if you remove.... basically the entire left. Anyone who honestly says that they are a centrist in Alberta would not touch the UCP with a thirty foot pole.

I would even argue that the NDP is basically a Lougheed-era Progressive Conservative party. The conservative movement in Canada, both the UCP and CPC, have taken hard turns to the right post-mergers, leaving the centre (and even the centre-right) behind.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by activeStick

What's a summary of her platform? Reading through the comments in the last few pages, I've got:

- pro Hydroxychloroquine
- pro separate from Canada

In a word, chaos. She’s bold enough to shake everything up and naive enough to think it will all work out.

[PepsiFree]

It’s funny how many people base 90% of their political opinions on a party’s name.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

I would even argue that the NDP is basically a Lougheed-era Progressive Conservative party. The conservative movement in Canada, both the UCP and CPC, have taken hard turns to the right post-mergers, leaving the centre (and even the centre-right) behind.

I consider myself centre-right, and this is 100% true. I can't stomach the thought of voting for either Republican wannabe's.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yeah. I don’t understand that perspective. What changed negatively in your life when the NDP were in power?
Not much. Can’t think of anything really. And honestly, for that matter not much impacted me directly from UCP either for what it’s worth I guess, that i directly noticed in my life. Maybe the COVID stuff but I dunno, I’m not really super convinced the NDP would have nailed that either. It was kinda an unwinnable situation for any government.

Well 2015- 2017 were a blood bath in the oil industry 1000's lost jobs, myself included, just look back through the Lay Offs in the Oil Patch thread. This cannot be ignored and NDP will always be tied to "crippling economies"

We really do not know what the Alberta NDP party is right now.

[MoneyGuy]

A media person in the States with the unfortunate name Danielle Smith is disassociating herself on Twitter from our premier-designate.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Well 2015- 2017 were a blood bath in the oil industry 1000's lost jobs, myself included, just look back through the Lay Offs in the Oil Patch thread. This cannot be ignored and NDP will always be tied to "crippling economies"

If people think it through, they'd recognize this wasn't the fault of the NDP. It was a global issue. It was also an inevitable fundamental shift in the Alberta oil industry, with consolidation and a refocusing on big players. This began after the previous oil crash, and was hastened by the collapse in prices.

But hey, easier to blame the NDP.