07-13-2022, 04:51 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Icon
I feel we're more sulking and just signing random depth peices nobody cares about anyway. The Gaudreau-less plan hasn't been determined, so we won't sign anyone or trade anyone of significance for a few weeks at least until it is.
Edit - forgot to note I agree would love to grab Necas
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If ever there was a time to grab Necas it's now, if Brad waits they will either figure it out or he will already be on another team.
If eligible I would even go as far as an offer sheet.
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07-13-2022, 04:53 PM
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#42
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Scoring Winger
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Well, they were still very over the cap with Eichel and basically the cost seems to be Pacioretty, Tuch, Krebs, Coghlan, and 1st rounder for Eichel. Per Jesse Granger who covers VGK.
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07-13-2022, 04:53 PM
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#43
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What are we giving up to get Necas though?
Better hang on to the 2023 1st
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07-13-2022, 04:54 PM
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#44
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
I feel we're more sulking and just signing random depth peices nobody cares about anyway. The Gaudreau-less plan hasn't been determined, so we won't sign anyone or trade anyone of significance for a few weeks at least until it is.
Edit - forgot to note I agree would love to grab Necas
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I think the real thing with today is that trades don't frequently happen on UFA day.
And two it's probably a lot harder to attract UFAs when Gaudreau is gone and Tkachuk's status is in limbo.
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07-13-2022, 04:55 PM
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#45
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Originally Posted by NegativeSpace
Well, they were still very over the cap with Eichel and basically the cost seems to be Pacioretty, Tuch, Krebs, Coghlan, and 1st rounder for Eichel. Per Jesse Granger who covers VGK.
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Also moving out Dadonov and paying Weber to be on LTIR.
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07-13-2022, 04:56 PM
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#46
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Also moving out Dadonov and paying Weber to be on LTIR.
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But the Flames were idiots not to be in on that deal. Right?
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07-13-2022, 05:00 PM
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Including Pacioretty as part of the Eichel deal to make the Flames off-season seem better?
They had cap to ice the roster with Pacioretty since Weber is on LTIR. Going to have include Pacioretty's replacement as part of the Eichel trade then.
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07-13-2022, 05:00 PM
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#48
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by OptimalTates
Including Pacioretty as part of the Eichel deal to make the Flames off-season seem better?
They had cap to ice the roster with Pacioretty since Weber is on LTIR. Going to have include Pacioretty's replacement as part of the Eichel trade then.
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I didn't. The beat reporter for VGK did.
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07-13-2022, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NegativeSpace
But the Flames were idiots not to be in on that deal. Right?
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Apparently so.
I always particularly liked the argument that the Flames needed to trade for Eichel because it was so obviously stupid and would force them into a rebuild.
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07-13-2022, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OptimalTates
Including Pacioretty as part of the Eichel deal to make the Flames off-season seem better?
They had cap to ice the roster with Pacioretty since Weber is on LTIR. Going to have include Pacioretty's replacement as part of the Eichel trade then.
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They actually did not have the cap to ice a roster with Pacioretty, because they were already over the cap with just 15 players (plus Weber, who can't play).
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07-13-2022, 05:04 PM
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#51
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
What are we giving up to get Necas though?
Better hang on to the 2023 1st
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I'd easily give up the 2023 first if I know.Chucky is staying.
Necas is one of the fastest players in the league, is responsible on both ends of the ice and can produce. Odds are that we don't end up drafting a player like him in the late teens/early twenties.
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07-13-2022, 05:06 PM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
They actually did not have the cap to ice a roster with Pacioretty, because they were already over the cap with just 15 players (plus Weber, who can't play).
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Over the cap with 3 players on IR including Weber's LTIR.
They had about 5M to sign Hague, Koolesar and Roy, and go over the cap by Weber's cap.
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07-13-2022, 06:05 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NegativeSpace
Well, they were still very over the cap with Eichel and basically the cost seems to be Pacioretty, Tuch, Krebs, Coghlan, and 1st rounder for Eichel. Per Jesse Granger who covers VGK.
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Not really true. They reupped Reilly Smith that made the Patches deal necessary.
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07-13-2022, 08:15 PM
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07-13-2022, 08:40 PM
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#55
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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That is gold!
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08-03-2022, 08:24 PM
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Country club atmosphere in Vegas?
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/max...183603648.html
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Pacioretty admitted he experienced a weird feeling shortly after being traded to the Golden Knights in 2018. It was something he hadn’t encountered previously in his lengthy NHL career.
“When I first got to Vegas, it was weird that there was, like, no accountability,” said Pacioretty. “And I’m not talking about in the team; I’m talking about like ever. You couldn’t feel pressure coming off anyone else, from the coach to the management.”
The Golden Knights missed the playoffs last season for the first time in their existence, which its fanbase wasn’t overly pleased about. Before the players went their separate ways for the summer, Pacioretty took it upon himself to demand better of everyone in the room.
“I mentioned that at the end of the year that no one is really holding us accountable,” Pacioretty explained. “If we have a bad year like this, the city would be half on fire in Montreal. Here in Vegas, it’s 80 degrees, and it’s sunny. We’re getting our car washed and getting our organic food, and going to play golf.
“I was kind of like, ‘we’ve got to police this thing a little better amongst each other.’ I don’t want to say it was a country club, but you have no one from the outside holding you accountable.”
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08-03-2022, 08:37 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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I totally forgot this trade happened.
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08-03-2022, 08:48 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by mile
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Meh, probably some truth to that and some hyperbole.
Comparing to the over the top melodramatic soap opera that is Montreal and it’s press and it’s fans, isn’t the best comparison to most markets.
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08-03-2022, 08:49 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Compare the work ethic and success of the golden misfits to the revolving door of superstars and the worsening results since that cup run.
He isn't wrong.
Their owner is missing the big picture and that's trickling down. They'll never win anything on their current path.
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08-03-2022, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Sure sounds like Eichel’s gonna love it there
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