2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by mile

Still remember this tweet from the London Knights (Kadri's junior team) writer...

I assume it means Colorado is his first choice but if they can't get a deal done, Calgary would be his next choice.

I hope Colorado gets him. 32 year old center who was a 50 point a year guy before last year looking for a longterm contract at probably 7 million a year.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

He's lead the Islanders in scoring every year since his rookie season. Give him some better linemates than Bailey or Parise.

He didn’t last year. Tied with Nelson (who scored more goals). But the fact he led scoring with the totals he had is more of an indictment on the Isles’ goal production than a complement to him. 62 points in 82 games shouldn’t lead a team.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

we will see, I'm sure he would be happy to go back to the Avs for less...anyone else has to pay though

My guess is the AAV is less than people thing and the total contract value is closer to $40M.

People thought it would be $7-8m for 7 years but I don't see it.

My guess is teams are offering.

$7-$7.5M for 4 years: $35M-$38M total

or

$5.5M-$6M for 7 years: $38.5M - $42M total

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Disagree, you have to pay to get a #1 center. would love to hear who you think Lou would take for Barzal.

Maybe that's what it "would take" from an Islander's perspective since they have such little talent outside of Barzal, but that doesn't suggest it's a good deal for Calgary to make.

You can make the argument that Mangiapane alone is a more impactful player as it stands today than Barzal is. Dig into the numbers. Barzal is not a high end #1 center. He plays extremely sheltered minutes, is not relied upon in the faceoff circle (for good reason), and is not a great finisher, nor 200 foot beast. Over the past three seasons Mangiapane and Barzal's even strength production/60 are near identical. You also have to factor in that Barzal has set up his contract in a very similar fashion as to Tkachuk - and he will be needing a 10M dollar qualifying offer after this upcoming season. Yes, 10M.

You can certainly prefer Barzal as a player but the difference in value between the two certainly is not a 25 year old top pairing defensemen. Noah Hanifin is so incredibly undervalued by this fanbase. Every team in the league would be lining up to acquire this player.

The grass isn't always greener.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Psytic

There's a rumor from Thomas Drance of the Athletic that Kadri has a pending deal with the Isles. Probably just looking to clear cap to make it work.

I read one rumour from an obscure source that said Kadri already signed a contract to play for the the Isles but the contract won't be registered with the league until they deal with the RFAs to see how much cap space they need to dump.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I read one rumour from an obscure source that said Kadri already signed a contract to play for the the Isles but the contract won't be registered with the league until they deal with the RFAs to see how much cap space they need to dump.

That has the ring of truth because that’s exactly the kind of thing Lou Lamoriello does.

[mile]

If that was true, I wonder how Lou feels about this leaking. Maybe he takes it off the table just like the JT Miller deal.


Until one of the big name insiders report it, I don't believe it. I think Kadri's still waiting on Colorado.

[OminousFlames]

I know it's probably been asked a million times but... What would the prospect of trading for William Nylander as a N1 or N2 RW for the team be?

[FanIn80]

Odds to sign Nazem Kadri

Flames (+600): We’re assuming Calgary is on here purely because you can’t put anything past general manager Brad Treliving after the Matthew Tkachuk trade. The Flames also have $10,975,000 in cap space this late into the offseason and there’s no reason why they shouldn’t be entertaining the idea of adding Kadri.

https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/...long-shot.html

Not sure where they got that number from. Capfriendly says $9,300,000, and we still need to sign Mangiapane and Kylington.

Actually... come to think of it... how are we supposed to be able to afford Kadri in the first place (re: all the "rumours")?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Odds to sign Nazem Kadri



Not sure where they got that number from. Capfriendly says $9,300,000, and we still need to sign Mangiapane and Kylington.

Actually... come to think of it... how are we supposed to be able to afford Kadri in the first place (re: all the "rumours")?

If the Flames sign Kadri then they move either Lucic or Monahan. Maybe even both.

Remember, they had a plan in place to be able to sign both Gaudreau and Tkachuk and fit it in under the cap somehow.

[Monahammer]

Barzal would be a crazy great piece to bring in if there's any chance he's available.

I wonder if coronato+ would be appealing to Lou?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Odds to sign Nazem Kadri



Not sure where they got that number from. Capfriendly says $9,300,000, and we still need to sign Mangiapane and Kylington.

Actually... come to think of it... how are we supposed to be able to afford Kadri in the first place (re: all the "rumours")?

LTIR Monahan. Or trade Monahan or Lucic.

[FanIn80]

I would trade Backlund before I trade Monahan. Better return, and Monny is still young enough to bounce back from his injuries. Backlund is a 33 year-oid defensive third-line center making $5.3M for two more seasons. Monahan will be 28 in Oct and only makes $1.2M more than Backlund (and only has one year left).

Monny is a two-time 30-goal scorer who scored at least 20 goals every single season he played until his hips gave out. There's a chance Monahan bounces back from his injuries and becomes the offensive second-line center this team desperately needs. Backlund isn't bouncing back from anything; we already know what he his. There's no offensive second-line center in him even though we're paying him like there is.

We have two over-priced centers, and between them only one has the potential to be a top-six player - and the other is the only one with current trading value.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I would trade Backlund before I trade Monahan. Better return, and Monny is still young enough to bounce back from his injuries. Backlund is a 33 year-oid defensive third-line center making $5.3M for two more seasons. Monahan will be 28 in Oct and only makes $1.2M more than Backlund (and only has one year left).

Monny is a two-time 30-goal scorer who scored at least 20 goals every single season he played until his hips gave out. There's a chance Monahan bounces back from his injuries and becomes the offensive second-line center this team desperately needs. Backlund isn't bouncing back from anything; we already know what he his. There's no offensive second-line center in him even though we're paying him like there is.

We have two over-priced centers, and between them only one has the potential to be a top-six player - and the other is the only one with current trading value.

Backlund was our best centre in the playoffs. And I say this as a guy who has been critical of his game. He quietly goes about his business in both ends of the ice then turns it on when it matters. Saying that, I think we'd be looking at futures or trading over valued salaries for him.

I like Monahan and really hope he can continue his career. Nobody but a floor team will want him and then only if they can give us some of their garbage back. Monahan will either be a redemption story if the hips hold up or he'll have to retire. I'd really like to see the Cinderella story play out here.

Long way to say say I don't think either player is going anywhere.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

If the Flames sign Kadri then they move either Lucic or Monahan. Maybe even both.

Remember, they had a plan in place to be able to sign both Gaudreau and Tkachuk and fit it in under the cap somehow.

The plan may have been to trade Mangiapane.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Goriders

LTIR Monahan. Or trade Monahan or Lucic.

Monahan will never agree to be on the LTIR. Since he has a veto that seems unlikely.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The plan may have been to trade Mangiapane.

Pretty sure it was too until the train left the tracks.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Barzal would be a crazy great piece to bring in if there's any chance he's available.

I wonder if coronato+ would be appealing to Lou?

If you were a GM would you trade your #1 C for a prospect?

If you want to go after Barzal, try Hanifin + Coronato +

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He didn’t last year. Tied with Nelson (who scored more goals). But the fact he led scoring with the totals he had is more of an indictment on the Isles’ goal production than a complement to him. 62 points in 82 games shouldn’t lead a team.

Tell me how it shouldn't? Every team needs a top point getter. Some teams have better results than others. It's not rocket appliances.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Tell me how it shouldn't? Every team needs a top point getter. Some teams have better results than others. It's not rocket appliances.

What I meant is (a) if 62 points leads your team, your team isn’t good and (b) your team leader isn’t that impressive.

Barzal was outpointed by the team point leaders of Arizona and Detroit.