2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

They have a year to figure that out. You asked how COL could free up significant cap space. Moving Girard is how. They can’t afford to pay a third-pairing guy $5 mil.

Yeah, because you clear up cap space for a single year and then sign a big contract over multiple years, ignoring the cap challenges you face in the subsequent years. Bold strategy Cotton.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sutter doesn’t match lines

He did (or tried to) in games 4 and 5 against the Oilers.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

If we sign Kadri this team will be real good. Some will freak out over term, but who cares. By the time it's a problem the teams window will be over anyway.

Exactly. Lock him in please Brad.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yeah, because you clear up cap space for a single year and then sign a big contract over multiple years, ignoring the cap challenges you face in the subsequent years. Bold strategy Cotton.

They could try to convince Kadri to sign a 1 year deal, at the highest amount they can afford to "go back to back" but that's a massive risk for Kadri.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

They could try to convince Kadri to sign a 1 year deal, at the highest amount they can afford to "go back to back" but that's a massive risk for Kadri.

That is, one his agent would likely tell him is unwise. Kadri needs to cash in on his past season or he's going to get lowballed the rest of his days.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

They could try to convince Kadri to sign a 1 year deal, at the highest amount they can afford to "go back to back" but that's a massive risk for Kadri.

Kadri is 32 coming off a career season - he should be trying to cash in here.

Way too much risk for him to go 1 year deal considering 33 year olds coming off bad seasons don't generally get a lot.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

They could try to convince Kadri to sign a 1 year deal, at the highest amount they can afford to "go back to back" but that's a massive risk for Kadri.

Risky for Kadri. I suspect the offers are nowhere close to what they were hoping but at his age I would be trying to get term. I doubt the offers get much better when he is trying to sign a longterm contract next summer entering the year as a 33 year old.

Still have to think someone will be dumb enough to sign him to a 5 or 6 year deal.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by bax

Why? That’s Pelletier’s bread and butter and I highly doubt Sutter would gift him a spot in the top 6.

Pelletier isn’t some offensive star to be. His prime is likely a defensively sound, middle six forward who can chip in some offense and play secondary PP minutes. I think Coleman is a good comparable actually.

I think you are dramatically under estimating Pelletier. He has been an elite two way, even strength scorer at every level he has ever played at.

He was the top 3 in rookie scoring in the AHL as a 20 year old and feasted on 5v5 scoring there.

He's outscored more highly rated prospects in the AHL.

The kids future is very bright. All signs point to a top 6 scorer.

[GioforPM]

I would pay him 7 but only for about 4 years max. And even that’s probably a contract you regret after 2. But Monahan and Lucic come off the books, and Backlund also comes off in 2.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by bax

Why? That’s Pelletier’s bread and butter and I highly doubt Sutter would gift him a spot in the top 6.

Pelletier isn’t some offensive star to be. His prime is likely a defensively sound, middle six forward who can chip in some offense and play secondary PP minutes. I think Coleman is a good comparable actually.

Pelletier says he models his game after Braydon Point. Would love for that to come to true.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I think you are dramatically under estimating Pelletier. He has been an elite two way, even strength scorer at every level he has ever played at.

He was the top 3 in rookie scoring in the AHL as a 20 year old and feasted on 5v5 scoring there.

He's outscored more highly rated prospects in the AHL.

The kids future is very bright. All signs point to a top 6 scorer.

I hope you are right!

I’ve just never got that impression from watching him. Still think he’s a really valuable piece, but more of a middle six scoring option with great two way play.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

What move could Colorado possibly make that would allow them to sign Kadri without crippling them long-term? They have to be concerned about next off-season now, when MacKinnon, Newhook, and Byram all need new contracts. Sure, they have Compher, Cogliano, Helm, and Johnson coming off the books, but that frees up only $12M. MacKinnon is going to eat up $5-6M of that, which leaves $6-7M to resign your RFAs and replace the bodies you just lost. Even at league minimum that is $3M deducted from the $6-7M available. A deal with Kadri doesn't appear to be possible with Colorado unless they move out a core piece. Kadri isn't a player you do that for.

Apparently Girard is the guy they are trying to find a taker to dump him on to.

The Flames might as well go for Kadri. They are clearly in win-now mode by trading Tkachuk for a couple of pending UFAs. There is no point in doing it half-way. Just pick a direction and commit to it.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Apparently Girard is the guy they are trying to find a taker to dump him on to.

If the Flames might as well go do Kadri. They are clearly in win-now mode by trading Tkachuk for a couple of pending UFAs. There is no point in doing it half-way. Just pick a direction and commit to it.

And a 1st round pick, and a prospect.........

[Madman]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Apparently Girard is the guy they are trying to find a taker to dump him on to.

The Flames might as well go do Kadri. They are clearly in win-now mode by trading Tkachuk for a couple of pending UFAs. There is no point in doing it half-way. Just pick a direction and commit to it.

Tkachuk was also a pending UFA.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Who averages the last 10 seasons of any player?

I agree he’s not worth 7 mil but he has scored at a 55+ point pace 4/6 seasons and his advanced stats are really impressive.

He’d be overpaid for sure, but you’d be overpaying a good player.

And with the pipeline this team has… why not go for it?

I wanted to say 5 seasons, but he has trouble putting 82 games together.

If you take out his last season, which is an anomaly looking at his career, he averages 54 points per season. Not sure how anything north of 6 could be justified.

[Vinny01]

Flames lost 2 100pt forwards and have added 1. They have also added a top pairing Dman. I think they need to try and add another forward if they can. Kadri could potentially be had for cap space so that is appealing but not at 5+ years. I do wonder with the Weeger pickup if they would co spider moving a Dman for a forward? Not sure which teams would be looking to add a Dman but Hanifin would appear to be the piece they could consider moving.

[Toonage]

Who takes Hanifin's minutes?

And before you suggest Weegar could play the LHS, who then takes his likely minutes on the RHS?

This team is better on D, but not ready to move Hanifin. Valimaki could go. But that might be it. IMO

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Who takes Hanifin's minutes?

And before you suggest Weegar could play the LHS, who then takes his likely minutes on the RHS?

This team is better on D, but not ready to move Hanifin. Valimaki could go. But that might be it. IMO

Well it wouldn’t be that bad. Weeger would replace Hanifin, Kylington still with Tanev and Zadorov with Mackey/Valimaki/Stone.

If we are having trouble scoring I think the upgrade to forwards outweighs the risks involved.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Who takes Hanifin's minutes?

And before you suggest Weegar could play the LHS, who then takes his likely minutes on the RHS?

This team is better on D, but not ready to move Hanifin. Valimaki could go. But that might be it. IMO

Weeger replaces Hanifin
Mackey/Valimaki replaces Gudbransen

[ComixZone]

I don't think we should be discounting Valimaki as harshly as we seem to be.

The exact same stuff was said about Kylington last year. I think Valimaki has a reasonable chance to be an every day player this coming season.