07-23-2022, 11:52 AM
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#1581
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Norm!
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Is it logical to assume that the Flames are trying to push off a rebuild to 24-25?
I mean looking at CapFriendly most of the core becomes UFA's
Next season we have two major free agents in Huberdeau. and Weeger. and no significant RFA's. With 36 million in cap space.
It looks to me like the Flames competitive window is this season and next, then the window slams shut hard.
I would think that Brad is pushing that narrative with Huberdeau and Weeger. We're going for a cup, even if you sign a shorter term deal to the end of next season, that's fine.
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07-23-2022, 11:53 AM
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#1582
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
An extended Huberdeau for Brayden Point +? Would that be a fair deal?
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Leaves a huge hole in the middle for TB, no? Especially when Stamkos missed significant time the previous two seasons. Though they went a long way without Point in the POs.
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07-23-2022, 11:55 AM
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#1583
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Is it logical to assume that the Flames are trying to push off a rebuild to 24-25?
I mean looking at CapFriendly most of the core becomes UFA's
Next season we have two major free agents in Huberdeau. and Weeger. and no significant RFA's. With 36 million in cap space.
It looks to me like the Flames competitive window is this season and next, then the window slams shut hard.
I would think that Brad is pushing that narrative with Huberdeau and Weeger. We're going for a cup, even if you sign a shorter term deal to the end of next season, that's fine.
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Or even sign a longer deal and we will deal you to a contender when our window is done. Deal has to be attractive to other teams though.
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07-23-2022, 11:57 AM
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#1584
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Just want to clarify something on my stance after thinking for a couple hours:
1) in terms of value, I think the Flames did very well with this trade
2) if Huberdeau and/or Weegar don't work out/won't re-sign, they can be traded for high value assets
3) I simply fear that the Flames will lose out on converting these new players into assets because of the organization's insistence on playing 2-3 home playoff games a year
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This is nonsense. The organisation wants to win the Stanley Cup, and make money. You may not agree with the process, but that is what they are doing.
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07-23-2022, 11:59 AM
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#1585
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Time to put 960 on buddies
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07-23-2022, 12:01 PM
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#1586
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
This is nonsense. The organisation wants to win the Stanley Cup, and make money. You may not agree with the process, but that is what they are doing.
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So true; it’s a 32 team league that’s capped and parity is real, every team (well most teams) pursuit and ultimate goal is the Cup and that’s no different for Calgary, credit to Tree for not throwing in the towel here and opening the window back up. It’s pretty amazing when you sit back and consider what he did with that trade and I don’t think he’s finished the blue prints for the coming year just yet either.
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07-23-2022, 12:03 PM
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#1588
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by drewtastic
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Going to tell my kids this was the GM of the Florida Panthers
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07-23-2022, 12:03 PM
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#1589
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Franchise Player
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Steinberg confirms 1st round pick is top-3 protected, with it shifting to 2026 if it's a top-3 pick.
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07-23-2022, 12:03 PM
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#1590
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Is it logical to assume that the Flames are trying to push off a rebuild to 24-25?
I mean looking at CapFriendly most of the core becomes UFA's
Next season we have two major free agents in Huberdeau. and Weeger. and no significant RFA's. With 36 million in cap space.
It looks to me like the Flames competitive window is this season and next, then the window slams shut hard.
I would think that Brad is pushing that narrative with Huberdeau and Weeger. We're going for a cup, even if you sign a shorter term deal to the end of next season, that's fine.
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Naw the Flames, if the resign Huberdeau have given themselves a 4ish year window, which is what most windows are.
They actually have a great set of young prospects ready to take on depth roles at elc prices. If Huberdeau will stay, it changes everything.
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07-23-2022, 12:05 PM
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#1591
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Franchise Player
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Anyone have a link for the audio?
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07-23-2022, 12:06 PM
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#1592
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by kaddy
Chucky controlled a lot of this. He had to agree to the 8 year contract or just say no and play out the year to be a UFA.
If we sign one of these guys and get more assets back, it’s win to me.
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Pretty sure Treliving would’ve only traded Tkachuk to a team that he was willing to re-sign for 8 years in order to maximize the asset return, so whoever was getting Tkachuk would’ve had to pay a King’s ransom.
For me, personally, I would’ve preferred an A+ prospect, a 1st and a talented, controlled, future top 6 forward. That would’ve been the type of return that I would’ve preferred because that’s 3 possible impact players that could’ve played for your team for a decade + rather than the all in for 2023 move we’re seeing.
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07-23-2022, 12:06 PM
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#1593
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
We'll see how it all comes together. However, the #1 biggest concern I had going into the offseason was not defense though, it was Gaudreau and Tkachuk. Losing 219 points is a gargantuan loss any way you slice it, that's where my focus will be on, how does Treliving mitigate the loss of his 2 top scorers? Huberdeau is a fine replacement, but finding a top RW to ease pressure off Huberdeau is imperative, otherwise, teams will just double team him and the top line will be as easy to defend as it was back a couple years ago.
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That's two different topics isn't it?
There isn't a trade to be made to wipe out the loss of Gaudreau nine days ago. But from the next morning on did they make the team better? Clearly yes.
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07-23-2022, 12:06 PM
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#1594
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Anyone have a link for the audio?
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https://player.sportsnet960.ca
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07-23-2022, 12:06 PM
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#1595
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
So Zito pulled the trade recommended by some drunk dude
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This is what I was thinking.
Was this a crazy prediction or the genesis of the idea that somehow made it to Florida management.
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07-23-2022, 12:06 PM
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#1596
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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If they are hell bent on still going all in right now, future be damned, might as well do whatever we can to sign Kadri. A Kadri-Huberdeau combo would probably get similar results to a Gaudreau-Tkachuk combo.
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07-23-2022, 12:07 PM
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#1597
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by MrMike
They over paid for grit and youth. I bet there was a huge bidding war if Carolina was coming a close second. Just wow.
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I really like this trade, but would looove to know what the Carolina offer was if they were in fact in the running. There's some serious depth in that organization as well.
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07-23-2022, 12:08 PM
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#1598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Treliving has his swagger back... Coming up on 10 minutes late to start his presser.
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07-23-2022, 12:09 PM
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#1599
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Treliving has his swagger back... Coming up on 10 minutes late to start his presser.
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He is busy trading Huberdeau 
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