[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[Strange Brew]

Still can’t believe at all the extra pieces BT brought in. Tkachuk for Huberdeau would have been a loss but still getting an elite talent back, just older.

Add a first pairing D and a good one at that? Wow
A future first rounder? Wow

And for good measure upgrade a 4th round pick into a decent prospect.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Still can’t believe at all the extra pieces BT brought in. Tkachuk for Huberdeau would have been a loss but still getting an elite talent back, just older.

Add a first pairing D and a good one at that? Wow
A future first rounder? Wow

And for good measure upgrade a 4th round pick into a decent prospect.

there really is no argument if you just look at the trade

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Depends on how you view Weager vs Gudbranson. Offensively, the back end definitely got better, but probably lost a bit in the shut down/physicality department.

Although, the defense was absolutely obliterated by Draisaitl and McDavid in the BoA, so I don't really know what to think about our defense right now to be honest. If Weager does a better job at containing 97 and 29 then yes, it probably is a win.

Dude, Tanev played with a dislocated shoulder and Z with broken ribs

This is a ####ing huge win. Can’t believe you don’t see it that way

[djsFlames]

Schwindt not getting enough recognition. That's a good pickup.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

It’s because the Flames have too many contracts to make it work. If you just add a couple of the AHL guys the trade would be declined by Florida

Yeah, I posted it more for the trade value meter and how unbalanced it is.

It won't even accept Tkachuk for Huberdeau 1 for 1.

[dino7c]

Flames will be good
Panthers will be good with Tkachuk

CBJ lol...just traded one of their best players for a 3rd and a 4th

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you keep talking about things that were an issue BEFORE this trade

Yes for one year...look who comes of the books next season

Trade improves the on ice team from yesterday
improves the future
improves the cap situation

it boggles the mind really...every hockey writer is giving the flames top marks for THIS DEAL

Yesterday sure, but not the team we saw a few months ago that wasn't enough to beat the Oilers.

I'm not just looking at this trade in a vaccuum, it's the totality of everything that has occurred that I take into consideration.

In my opinion, Treliving needed to improve the team from last season, not just from last night and if that couldn't happen, then I was open to rebuilding. I don't look at this team and think division winner right now, I think they're a #2 or #3 seed in the Pacific or at worst, a wild card team and that's taking a step back IMO.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

We'll see how it all comes together. However, the #1 biggest concern I had going into the offseason was not defense though, it was Gaudreau and Tkachuk. Losing 219 points is a gargantuan loss any way you slice it, that's where my focus will be on, how does Treliving mitigate the loss of his 2 top scorers? Huberdeau is a fine replacement, but finding a top RW to ease pressure off Huberdeau is imperative, otherwise, teams will just double team him and the top line will be as easy to defend as it was back a couple years ago.

But you would agree that Calgary won this trade? They haven't replaced those 219 goals yet but they definitely win this trade, wouldn't you agree?

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by jg13

I can confirm that Huberdeau does spend a lot of his time in the summer here. So I imagine that an extension is very likely.

I missed this nugget from earlier in this thread.
It just keeps getting better if true.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames will be good
Panthers will be good with Tkachuk

CBJ lol...just traded one of their best players for a 3rd and a 4th

Doing their very best to eliminate the net gains from a confused and dejected gaudreau wandering through their door.

Enjoy them, Johnny.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yesterday sure, but not the team we saw a few months ago that wasn't enough to beat the Oilers.

I'm not just looking at this trade in a vaccuum, it's the totality of everything that has occurred that I take into consideration.

In my opinion, Treliving needed to improve the team from last season, not just from last night and if that couldn't happen, then I was open to rebuilding. I don't look at this team and think division winner right now, I think they're a #2 or #3 seed in the Pacific or at worst, a wild card team and that's taking a step back IMO.

this is the trade thread
Flames made out like bandits

Ask the Hawks or Lightning if 2nd or 3rd in the division is a step back...gotta get in to have a shot. Pacific is WIDE OPEN

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Monahan and Lucic more than pay for Huberdeau/Weegar’s raises.

Yes, assuming that they'll re-sign. We'll have the money, there's no doubt in my mind about that. But that's the thing, until they've signed, they're not signed.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Schwindt not getting enough recognition. That's a good pickup.

I agree. Big kid who plays a very transferable game-good 200 ft player, physical, and has smarts. He's an NHLer for sure.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

I missed this nugget from earlier in this thread.
It just keeps getting better if true.

i'm not going to elaborate on this case, however there are a surprisingly a few more quality NHL players (yes even players that play for American teams) that spend a lot of time in Calgary during the summer, whether it be because of girlfriends, extended family etc.. that I know of.

Just because Johnny and MT didn't want to be here long term doesn't mean other players don't.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by jg13

i'm not going to elaborate on this case, however there are a surprisingly a few more quality NHL players (yes even players that play for American teams) that spend a lot of time in Calgary during the summer, whether it be because of girlfriends, extended family etc.. that I know of.

Just because Johnny and MT didn't want to be here long term doesn't mean other players don't.

and Tkachuk basically left for taxes...he is scrooge McDuck

his rumored list of teams was St. Louis and all the no state tax teams

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Dude, Tanev played with a dislocated shoulder and Z with broken ribs

This is a ####ing huge win. Can’t believe you don’t see it that way

Honestly, I don't know if the Flames were a Tanev away from beating McDavid and Draisaitl let alone Mackinnon and Makar's team.

Like I said, I'm not just judging this trade specifically, it's about the totality of the offseason as a whole. Is the team better than last year's team? I don't think so as of this very moment. If Treliving can swing something for a legitimately good RW, then that very well may change my mind.

[calgarywinning]

Just got off a length plane ride to this trade, had Calgary's FD waiting for us just in case at the Tarmac. Clearly a big sign Flames were doing stuff. (Faulty plane sensor, they were just being sure no oil or fuel spill).

I was super sad to see Johnny Gaudreau leave. He was truly spectacular, regardless of how he ended up making his final bye Calgary decisions. It was such a pleasure to watch things I couldn't believe with my eyes on so many nights. One of the stories that burns is when he arrived he took the worst change room and the smallest in the corner and kept it until he left.

I wasn't surprised by Tcachuk's sentiments to want to move; as his last signing was a full indicator. Tcachuk can be a game breaker in both senses. We had such a great season of competition and this guy had some great nights and some not so great nights. I won't miss his no look passes to ####ing nobody or 5-8 game disappearances if his ego takes a hit.

Based on where the team was at and the weird Covid years, I just don't fault Treliving and thing he had hoped deeper success would have leveraged contract renewals which didn't work out. One was a known factor and the other was anyones guess; and I don't even think Gaudreau got it right.

But to have Huberdeau who i've long admired step in, i'm just so beside myself. This isn't a crafty winger with a zippy deceptive skillset, this is a playmaker, a guy who is strong on the puck and see's the game. I just feel fortunate to be able to have this person step in with Lindholm.

Upside underrated 2 way D, yes please. Protected first round 2025, yes again. We've got some talent able to push up as well, and some people coming off the books.

This could be one of the most skilled trades to date, where both teams get what they need. Florida upgrading it's toughness factor getting a long term player while shedding one they knew they would not resign.

I'd like to send a big FU to sportsnet as well for their time to rebuild piece and slag crap writing and article.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

Just got off a length plane ride to this trade, had Calgary's FD waiting for us just in case at the Tarmac. Clearly a big sign Flames were doing stuff. (Faulty plane sensor, they were just being sure no oil or fuel spill).

I was super sad to see Johnny Gaudreau leave. He was truly spectacular, regardless of how he ended up making his final bye Calgary decisions. It was such a pleasure to watch things I couldn't believe with my eyes on so many nights. One of the stories that burns is when he arrived he took the worst change room and the smallest in the corner and kept it until he left.

I wasn't surprised by Tcachuk's sentiments to want to move; as his last signing was a full indicator. Tcachuk can be a game breaker in both senses. We had such a great season of competition and this guy had some great nights and some not so great nights. I won't miss his no look passes to ####ing nobody or 5-8 game disappearances if his ego takes a hit.

Based on where the team was at and the weird Covid years, I just don't fault Treliving and thing he had hoped deeper success would have leveraged contract renewals which didn't work out. One was a known factor and the other was anyones guess; and I don't even think Gaudreau got it right.

But to have Huberdeau who i've long admired step in, i'm just so beside myself. This isn't a crafty winger with a zippy deceptive skillset, this is a playmaker, a guy who is strong on the puck and see's the game. I just feel fortunate to be able to have this person step in with Lindholm.

Upside underrated 2 way D, yes please. Protected first round 2025, yes again. We've got some talent able to push up as well, and some people coming off the books.

This could be one of the most skilled trades to date, where both teams get what they need. Florida upgrading it's toughness factor getting a long term player while shedding one they knew they would not resign.

I'd like to send a big FU to sportsnet as well for their time to rebuild piece and slag crap writing and article.

Wasn't aware of this beforehand, but of course they did.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yes, assuming that they'll re-sign. We'll have the money, there's no doubt in my mind about that. But that's the thing, until they've signed, they're not signed.

If they’re not, they get shipped out as rentals and it’s Tkachuk for three 1st round picks.

I was livid at the lack of options Treliving left himself in the lead up to the draft, but this trade gives them options in all directions.

There’s no way I saw this turning out this well.

Replacing a 115 point winger with a bigger 115 point winger alone is remarkable.

[dino7c]

the timeline of the trade tweets are insane

Tkachuk to Florida is announced...Oiler fans gloating about McDavid ending the Flames, then the returns start to come out lol