you are also free not to respond to my posts fyi, I wasn't even bashing...I honestly feel bad for people who can't enjoy anything, its a dumb kids game
Flames have a 115 point superstar 3rd overall draft pick on their roster that wasn't there yesterday
#### YEAH!
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On the surface it's a big win for the Flames. Obviously Calgary is adding a ton of cap space so that plays a factor. Ultimately all depends on what kind of contracts Huby and Weegar will sign if they sign. Both players probably needed a change in scenery so it will be interesting to see if they will stick.
But on the surface it's a big win for the Flames since they have the cap space to do this.
wow this is wild. We got worse but man did we need a guy like tkachuk.
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i imagine contract talks fell through? Another 1st round pick gone?
I don't feel great about this return but tkachuk opens up the window again. Tough to say bye to huberdeau like this but he was gonna sign the same deal as tkachuk anyway. Big team shift incoming.
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bruh huge overpayment. He’s a really good player but f***
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zito's been making terrible deals value-wise and looks like he's not going to stop anytime soon.
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jesus the balls on this guy.
Knee jerk reaction is sadness over losing huby ☹️ let’s see if that changes
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i know huby was probably not going to stay but this trade is horrible for us. I’m sorry, there’s just no other way to look at this, we gave up so much.
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straight up, tkachuk is not better than huberdeau, adding weegar and a 1st makes this absolutely maddening.
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wow. It's a lot. Guess the contract talks weren't going well and weegar and huberdeau were asking for too much.
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goddamn zito truly is the anti-tallon. He's throwing out first rounders like its candy.
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also, wtf why couldn't the flames take horny? You'd think that package would have been more than enough.
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both go to market in my opinion. Not a chance either one stays in calgary. Especially huby with walsh as his agent, they’re gonna want to cash in.
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i already discussed this in another thread... Huby might score a nice amount of points but he's not a significant factor in whether the panthers win or lose any given game. He's not a difference maker.
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this makes absolutely zero sense to me. Losing huberdeau is a huge loss.
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florida just went from kind of soft to really f***ing annoying real quick.
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you have to imagine zito has more work ahead of him.
Replacing weegar's minutes is no easy task and there isn't anyone on the roster that can do it. Forsling and ekblad are a great starting point but gudas is a big drop off from them. No chance this team touches ice with those as the top-3 defenders going into next season.
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draft picks? Who needs them?
Ok if this was huby and weegs for tkachuck i’d be like swell, sad but swell.
But yeah unnecessary to pay them on top of that.
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shocked... There must be more to this story, but also excited for tkachuk
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weegar and huby were definitely at the strip club.
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like others have said, i think huby gets more than $10 million on his next contract. And weegs probably gets around $6 million or more on his. And i think zito would rather eventually pony up for bobby forsling instead.
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what the f***. I just got out of watching nope and saw this.
I'm conflicted man. Huberdeau being gone sucks hard, i didn't see that coming.
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man i haven't played the nhl games in a few years now but this trade really makes me want to sign up to ea play and fire up nhl 22 to give this squad a go :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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we gave up a #### ton for chuck. Obviously the fact that contracts didn’t get done with huby and weegs as quickly as barky last year was an indication that sides were not close.
Now we need to add on defense and not even going to try to speculate who would be the trade piece we give up for that.
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really didnt think we needed tkachuk and the price is horrible for that. Guess it will be similar season as the last one, nobody cares defence.
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we overpaid, but huby was always a frustrating player by overpassing, not taking his shots and being too predictable, especially on the pp. Weegs was way overrated with that plus/minus stat, dude was making unforced giveaways with regularity and that decision making in the tb playoff game was a defining moment. Love tkachuk's toughness. Would love if zito went after kadri too, but probably no room.
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if this trade was hubey for chucky then i'd be fine.. I just think we sent way to much. Not a big fan of this for next year.. After that who knows
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oh boy..
Love huberdeau. Will really miss him. Wont miss him @ 10m x 8 years.
Weegar. Thank god we didnt sign him long term at 6-7m
thachuk love the kid. Steep price. If zito knew he wont be able to resign the two for reasonable price its a good trade
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somehow this is so kodak black's fault
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it's so awful reading about this trade around the internet
99% people dont understand there ufa to be. Will command crazy deals you dont want to give 30 year olds
people are grading this trade as we traded both these guys with good contracts
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if ekblad gets hurt we are so f***ed.
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lightning fan coming here in peace.
I like the balls of zito. Not easy to trade a franchise guy like huberdeau. But i easily like tkachuk > huby for the future, assuming he was demanding a similar contract to what mt just got.
But replacing weegar is going to be tough. Not sure if he's your whipping boy or not for the blunders he has, but i'm an analytics guy and he's a darling for that. So do you think zito is going to just go into the season with what he has on defense and pretty much punt the season and use the cap space ya'll will have next year to get the replacement?
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too bad kadri is looking for stupid money. He’ll turn 32 right before opening day, i’d trade reinhart’s 6.5per and sign kadri for 4yrs at 6.5per but someone will probably pay up even more. 8+ on a shorter term deal? Someone may, but he’d be great to have here.
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you are also free not to respond to my posts fyi, I wasn't even bashing...I honestly feel bad for people who can't enjoy anything, its a dumb kids game
Flames have a 115 point superstar 3rd overall draft pick on their roster that wasn't there yesterday
#### YEAH!
If people agreeing with you is important to you, whatever floats your boat.
You're just putting spin on other's posts where that isn't the message. Perhaps it's how you read them in your head, that they come across as not enjoying anything.
Some people enjoy cognac and Chaucer. Some people enjoy cat vids.
At the end of the day Tkachuk said 1 more year max.
2023 Huberdeau @$5.9M > 2023 Tkachuk @$9.5M. Florida might look better off from this trade in a couple of years. but the Flames are playing with house money, hopefully they at least found some good Canadian boys who want to talk about contracts with them.
And his underlying micro stats, transition, and zone entry / exit stats are even more stellar.
He’s a top 20 dman in the league by pretty much any metric. Pay this man.
For me, he is the key.
Huberdeau is a replacement for Gaudreau, but Weegar is a D upgrade that the team needed to be a contender. Losing Tkachuk leaves a hole, but it is easier to replace a winger, good a player as he is.
I believe the Flames are a better team than last year and are favorites for the division. If they sign Kadri, I feel they are in the mix to win it all.
Let's not get excited just yet. Huberdeau and Weegar are both UFAs at the end of the season. Both need extensions for this to be a possible win. This is kicking the can down the road until extensions are worked out. The Flames could be in a similar position by the end of the season.
Nah. Let's all get very excited.
This is a great trade.
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I can't express how glad I am that you feel this way. Really, I am serious. You and the asset management rebuild crowd can live in your own little world and eat misery. I have a hockey team to cheer for again.
Just want to clarify something on my stance after thinking for a couple hours:
1) in terms of value, I think the Flames did very well with this trade
2) if Huberdeau and/or Weegar don't work out/won't re-sign, they can be traded for high value assets
3) I simply fear that the Flames will lose out on converting these new players into assets because of the organization's insistence on playing 2-3 home playoff games a year
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I was away from the internet for a while doing stuff tonight. Opened my phone and saw THIS???
Treliving won't be fooled twice. I would have to imagine if there is no extension for these players at the deadline, they're both gone and we blow up the team.
