07-22-2022, 02:21 PM
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#1641
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Disagree. I like The Blues deal. I like the Devil's deal if you replace the 2nd and Bahl with Holtz. I would pass on the others.
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You'd pass on Edvinsson or Sanderson?
Those would be the two prospects i'd target above all else. Foundational top pairing defencemen. Especially that Sanderson deal as it includes a 1st and a 2nd (I can't believe we'd get anything near that).
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07-22-2022, 02:22 PM
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#1642
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First Line Centre
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New Jersey
Jesper Bratt
Yegor Sharangovich
Kevin Bahl
2023 first-round pick, and a 2024 second round pick.
This would be a highly unpalatable return from Jersey. If thats the destination Treliving needs to get at least one of ..
Mercer
Holtz
Nemec
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07-22-2022, 02:22 PM
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#1643
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Not that all Americans pose a flight risk, but Sanderson as the key piece would worry me, as he has two "strikes" against him:
1. American
2. Playing in the NCAA, and can walk for nothing in 2 years.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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07-22-2022, 02:23 PM
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#1644
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
Not that all Americans pose a flight risk, but Sanderson as the key piece would worry me, as he has two "strikes" against him:
1. American
2. Playing in the NCAA, and can walk for nothing in 2 years.
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Played hockey in Alberta as a youth though. Also, Sanderson has already turned pro - so no risk of walking for nothing in 2 years.
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07-22-2022, 02:25 PM
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#1645
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
You'd pass on Edvinsson or Sanderson?
Those would be the two prospects i'd target above all else. Foundational top pairing defencemen. Especially that Sanderson deal as it includes a 1st and a 2nd (we won't get anything near this).
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I didn't even consider them because neither is realistic. Yzerman has all but said they are not interested and Ottawa has made their moves plus they are a Canadian city. I also don't believe they would consider moving Sanderson.
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07-22-2022, 02:26 PM
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#1646
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I didn't even consider them because neither is realistic. Yzerman has all buy said they are not interested and Ottawa has made their moves plus they are a Canadian city. I also don't believe they would consider moving Sanderson.
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Yeah, my thoughts as well would be neither Sanderson nor Edvinsson would be on the table.
...I'd absolute take them if they were.
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07-22-2022, 02:26 PM
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#1647
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Yeah, my thoughts as well would be neither Sanderson nor Edvinsson would be on the table.
...I'd absolute take them if they were.
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Well ya, agreed.
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07-22-2022, 02:31 PM
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#1648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Played hockey in Alberta as a youth though. Also, Sanderson has already turned pro - so no risk of walking for nothing in 2 years.
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Ah, okay, didn't realize he's signed already.
That would take away a lot of the risk I think. Also didn't know he moved to Calgary and became a citizen. Does he have a parent from Calgary?
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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07-22-2022, 02:33 PM
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#1649
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyZ
New Jersey
Jesper Bratt
Yegor Sharangovich
Kevin Bahl
2023 first-round pick, and a 2024 second round pick.
This would be a highly unpalatable return from Jersey. If thats the destination Treliving needs to get at least one of ..
Mercer
Holtz
Nemec
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I want Nemec and one of Holtz or Mercer! Plus a 1st!
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07-22-2022, 02:47 PM
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#1650
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Ryan Leslie just said on the St. Louis radio that there’s a 0% chance Chucky is a Flame by the arbitration date and the Flames want it done sooner than later. Also said it’ll 100% be a team that Matthew will sign long-term with. So basically, nothing we didn’t already know
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07-22-2022, 02:50 PM
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#1651
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Ryan Leslie just said on the St. Louis radio that there’s a 0% chance Chucky is a Flame by the arbitration date and the Flames want it done sooner than later. Also said it’ll 100% be a team that Matthew will sign long-term with. So basically, nothing we didn’t already know
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He's not giving anything up. only talking about StL as a destination, won't get into speculation about other teams. Mentions the low tax states (some of which were on the list), as well as Boston/NJ. Everyone being so tight lipped about this...less info we have, the more we try to fill in the blanks.
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07-22-2022, 02:52 PM
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#1652
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
Ah, okay, didn't realize he's signed already.
That would take away a lot of the risk I think. Also didn't know he moved to Calgary and became a citizen. Does he have a parent from Calgary?
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His dad is former NHL'er Geoff Sanderson:
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Sanderson currently resides in Calgary, Alberta, with his wife Ellen and three sons
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via Wikipedia.
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07-22-2022, 02:53 PM
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#1653
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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One thing Leslie said that I think is important is that people shouldn’t automatically judge American players and assume they’ll eventually want out. He said Hanifin loves it in Calgary and that Matthew and Johnny are just different people and not every American player is the same
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07-22-2022, 02:53 PM
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#1654
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Ryan Leslie just said on the St. Louis radio that there’s a 0% chance Chucky is a Flame by the arbitration date and the Flames want it done sooner than later. Also said it’ll 100% be a team that Matthew will sign long-term with. So basically, nothing we didn’t already know
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not a big surprise, as you would want the team to have the opportunity to lock him in long term - though I confess, I don't know exactly what happens to the arbitration period if Chucky is dealt before then?
But you definitely want to move on before training camp so this situation doesn't become a distraction...also would be nice to get the new players adjusted with Sutter and the group.
its tricky as you don't want to take a lesser deal either due to the shorten time span to Aug 11...
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07-22-2022, 03:00 PM
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#1655
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
One thing Leslie said that I think is important is that people shouldn’t automatically judge American players and assume they’ll eventually want out. He said Hanifin loves it in Calgary and that Matthew and Johnny are just different people and not every American player is the same
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Still a tough pill to swallow when three elite American born players bail on Calgary in what? The last 4 years?
That's tough.
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07-22-2022, 03:06 PM
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#1656
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Still a tough pill to swallow when three elite American born players bail on Calgary in what? The last 4 years?
That's tough.
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Who is the third?
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07-22-2022, 03:07 PM
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#1657
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Who is the third?
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Guessing Fox
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07-22-2022, 03:07 PM
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#1658
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Who is the third?
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That Fox prick
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07-22-2022, 03:08 PM
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#1659
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
That Fox prick
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Haha this made me chuckle while in a meeting.
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07-22-2022, 03:08 PM
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#1660
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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any Blues deal without Kyrou and any Devils deal without Holtz or Mercer is a "no" for me. Absolutely need to get that one key piece.
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