07-21-2022, 07:22 PM
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#2861
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Kopitar carries his line. Lindholm doesn’t. Most time Lindholm was the 3rd best on his line lol
There is not even a doubt Kopitar was their franchise player.
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not sure what the lol is about but that is certainly debatable...Lindholm was the responsible one and still put up 82 points.
All three of them played far better together than apart...Guadreau's game went to another level when Lindholm arrived. Tkachuk's did when he joined the top line.
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07-21-2022, 07:25 PM
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#2862
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by dino7c
2 remaining Flames finished #2 for major NHL awards
also, assuming they get a haul for Tkachuk and have tons of space...its certainly possible to have a better TEAM next season
Will I guarantee 112 points and 2+ wins in the 2nd round...no, but that is the high water mark after 8 years of trying for the last group.
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That's essentially where I'm at with this situation.
If the Flames can pry Kyrou and Tarasenko out of the Blues (in addition to a 1st round pick and whatever else), that's a pretty decent top line with Lindholm between them.
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07-21-2022, 07:31 PM
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#2863
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
not sure what the lol is about but that is certainly debatable...Lindholm was the responsible one and still put up 82 points.
All three of them played far better together than apart...Guadreau's game went to another level when Lindholm arrived. Tkachuk's did when he joined the top line.
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Johnny was undisputed the best on the line
Arguable between Lindholm and Tkachuk but Tkachuk had more points
Same when Monahan was on the line.
The lol was for it’s not a good comparison. Kopitar was their undisputed franchise player
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07-21-2022, 07:36 PM
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#2864
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by boogerz
That's essentially where I'm at with this situation.
If the Flames can pry Kyrou and Tarasenko out of the Blues (in addition to a 1st round pick and whatever else), that's a pretty decent top line with Lindholm between them.
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I like this, but I like a full blown reset better. I also trust Darryl and the harder it gets the more invested he seems to become.
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07-21-2022, 08:13 PM
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#2865
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Johnny was undisputed the best on the line
Arguable between Lindholm and Tkachuk but Tkachuk had more points
Same when Monahan was on the line.
The lol was for it’s not a good comparison. Kopitar was their undisputed franchise player
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Lindholm was voted the 2nd best defensive player in the NHL...points aren't everything
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07-21-2022, 08:21 PM
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#2866
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Doughty might dispute Kopitar's franchise player tag. Maybe even Quick with his Smythe.
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07-21-2022, 08:24 PM
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#2867
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Lindholm was voted the 2nd best defensive player in the NHL...points aren't everything
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Never said he is not good. He is just not a franchise player as there are 2 players better than him
Anyway, he has plenty of opportunities to prove he is the man now. Let’s see.
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07-21-2022, 08:40 PM
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#2868
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#1 Goaltender
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Everyone assumes Tarasenko would waive to Calgary. And he probably would bounce immediately after a year even if he did. Seems like prolonging the inevitable at best, makes no sense.
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07-21-2022, 08:49 PM
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#2869
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Everyone assumes Tarasenko would waive to Calgary. And he probably would bounce immediately after a year even if he did. Seems like prolonging the inevitable at best, makes no sense.
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he is the cap dump not the main attraction
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07-21-2022, 08:50 PM
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#2870
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Although he'd be one hell of a cap dump.
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07-21-2022, 08:51 PM
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#2871
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Yeah, with a deal for the Blues you almost wish it's a three way trade where another team gets Tarasenko with Flames retaining but more likely he's a rental (if the Flames are out by then).
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07-21-2022, 08:53 PM
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#2872
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
he is the cap dump not the main attraction
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I mean I was just looking at his stats, 34 goals and over PPG. He's not a cap dump lol.
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07-21-2022, 08:53 PM
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#2874
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Everyone assumes Tarasenko would waive to Calgary. And he probably would bounce immediately after a year even if he did. Seems like prolonging the inevitable at best, makes no sense.
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If Tarasenko was part of the trade then he would be mostly a cap dump and traded at the deadline for a draft pick.
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07-21-2022, 08:55 PM
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#2875
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OptimalTates
Yeah, with a deal for the Blues you almost wish it's a three way trade where another team gets Tarasenko with Flames retaining but more likely he's a rental (if the Flames are out by then).
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Flames are going to make the playoffs. You can take that to the bank.
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07-21-2022, 08:58 PM
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#2876
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
That's essentially where I'm at with this situation.
If the Flames can pry Kyrou and Tarasenko out of the Blues (in addition to a 1st round pick and whatever else), that's a pretty decent top line with Lindholm between them.
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Building a top line for next season shouldn’t be the priority when dealing an asset like Tkachuk.
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07-21-2022, 08:59 PM
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#2877
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesgod
Flames are going to make the playoffs. You can take that to the bank.
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Yeah if they plug in Kyrou and Tarasenko, I don’t see how people would say we’d miss the playoffs.
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07-21-2022, 09:05 PM
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#2878
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Tarasenko is great, I'd be ok with extending him if he'd stay. Zadorov might be a big help.
Kyrou is a requirement from STL though.
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07-21-2022, 09:07 PM
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#2879
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesgod
Flames are going to make the playoffs. You can take that to the bank.
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I agree. Fans are going to have a 2004-style love affair with this year’s team.
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07-21-2022, 09:09 PM
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#2880
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgARI
I agree. Fans are going to have a 2004-style love affair with this year’s team.
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This team will have a very clear and purposeful identity. I think they’re gonna be awesome to watch.
They’re going to hound pucks like nobody’s business.
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