[News] UPD: Tkachuk arbitration hearing set for Aug 11

[Jiri Hrdina]

Try for Perunovich

[dino7c]

Kyrou is a heck of a player

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

If you're waiting for a lottery pick, then Chucky ain't being traded. What non contending team would trade for 1 year of Matthew Tkatchuk for their 1st round pick?

If Ottawa and Jersey are still in the mix, those at least have a shot at #1 overall.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I agree on his bargaining power.
Perhaps victim isn't the right word, but I'm saying his negotiation is being heavily influenced by what happened with Gaudreau (so beyond his control).

If Gaudreau had signed, no one would be panicking right now that we must sign him right now or trade him right now. That would still be the preference, but there's an extra urgency to his negotiation now that came from external circumstances.

Looking back a year, everyone always thought Tkachuk was the bigger flight risk than Gaudreau. With deadlines based around arbitration, it would have been an awful idea to sign Tkachuk for one year and then let him "make up his mind" at the end of the year.

Management should not have handled this any differently, even with Gaudreau walking....although maybe they would have. So perhaps the silver lining here, is that they get value for Tkachuk or re-sign him, as opposed to just acting like softies and letting him walk, which is what may have happened if Gaudreau had signed.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kyrou is a heck of a player

I worry about any guy possibly connected to the Hockey Canada SA and hasn’t come out publicly to say he was not part of it and will be cooperating with the investigation ……. Lol literally just released the statement after I posted this. Well then by all means make him part of a deal.

[dino7c]

It's not 1 year of Tkachuk it's 8 or 9 IMO

I think he knows 104 is the high water mark for his career, he may not want to commit to the Flames but he wants to cash in.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kyrou is a heck of a player

All the proof I need:
https://mobile.twitter.com/andystric...139346434?s=21

https://twitter.com/user/status/1485725283139346434

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by rhino

I worry about any guy possibly connected to the Hockey Canada SA and hasn’t come out publicly to say he was not part of it and will be cooperating with the investigation b

Didn't even realize he might be involved, certainly something to look at. Great player though.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

If you're waiting for a lottery pick, then Chucky ain't being traded. What non contending team would trade for 1 year of Matthew Tkatchuk for their 1st round pick?

Tkachuk is an elite player.

The return has to include an elite player, an elite prospect, or an elite pick. If not, it's a bad trade.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can blame Treliving for going for it with what they had if you want, but I think it was the smart play.

Such a smart play it is going to set the organization back a decade or more. Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Such a smart play it is going to set the organization back a decade or more. Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.

I really need some of that revisionist mentality

[Sec214]

This could be the biggest trade in cap era history.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Try for Perunovich

That ship has sailed. No way they cough him up. Blues need a really good young blueliner. Dominated the AHL in his short stint and didn't look out of place in the games he played. Going to be a fixture on their blue line for a while.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Such a smart play it is going to set the organization back a decade or more. Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.

More excessive dramatics.

The system is self-correcting. When crap happens, or you make bad decisions, you get higher draft picks. And, in this case, cap space.

Is it a setback this year? Of course. Ten years? LOL.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Such a smart play it is going to set the organization back a decade or more. Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.

A bit dramatic. Gaudreau last summer wouldn’t have fetched a ton, neither would have 2 weeks of negotiating rights this summer. It’s like saying what we gave up for Toffoli set us back a decade or more. Easy to wave our hands around but it just ends up looking silly.

So, the risk of not getting that return vs the potential of making a run with an established, cup winning coach? Smart play. Sounds pretty dumb to instead trade the guy for a middling return instead of going for a run but if that’s brilliance to you, by all means.

[djsFlames]

Get Kyrou, get an A level prospect, get a 1st.

Do it right.

No ####ing Jbo/Iggy trades here.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Get Kyrou, get an A level prospect, get a 1st.

Do it right.

No ####ing Jbo/Iggy trades here.

And if it’s a cap dump please be the last year of the contract

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Such a smart play it is going to set the organization back a decade or more. Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.

So they should have moved Johnny after the 19-20 season when he had 58 points and was a -10? That would have been a sell-low move to say the least...

[flames_fan_down_under]

I can understand the dramatic tenor as the star players leaving the Flames for greener pastures has ALMOST never worked out in the Flames favor. As we all know the 90s were some dark dark times. Obviously different conditions now, but seeing star players leave for middling returns is something of a rite of passage for the Flames, and leaves me skeptical that THIS time it will work out.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Tkachuk is an elite player.

The return has to include an elite player, an elite prospect, or an elite pick. If not, it's a bad trade.

I agreed

Can Treliving do it?