[News] UPD: Tkachuk arbitration hearing set for Aug 11

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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Tkachuk trades targets....

Anaheim: Mason McTavish, Adam Henrique, 1st round pick.
Henrique I don't think has much value, McTavish I like & the 1st obviously has more value from ANA than others... so much so I doubt they'd include it in a deal unless it's lottery protected, then pass

Buffalo: Jack Quinn, Josh Bloom, Kyle Okposo, 1st round pick.
Big pile of meh to me, again other than the 1st which could be a lottery one... I don't see why the Sabres would even be interested though, their window's too far away

Ottawa: Josh Norris, Lassi Thomson, 1st round pick
I really hope Brad's all over Ottawa in trade talks. They just signed Norris to a big extension so he may not be on the table, but I'd take Batherson or Stuetzle & a 1st

Islanders: Noah Dobson, Brock Nelson, 1st round pick
Don't hate this but don't love it. So probably something similar to what we'll see.

Detroit: Lucas Raymond, Jakub Vrana, 1st round pick
I don't think Detroit parts with Raymond after his rookie season results

Seattle: Shane Wright, Jared McCann, 1st round pick
Basically an equivalent to the deal we could have done with Jersey at the draft if the rumors are true. I'd take this and run still

New Jersey: Dawson Mercer, Ryan Graves, Thomas Tatar, 1st round pick (Grave+Tatar for cap)
Another one I don't love, don't hate, so probably fine

St. Louis: Neighbors, Kyrou, Tarasenko, 1st (Neighbors+Kyrou to make up for the lower quality prospect)
I think we'd only be getting one of Kyrou or Tarasenko, we'd prefer Kyrou due to age & potential, they'll prefer to trade Tarasenko.
Wouldn't be a first choice for me but if it's a sign & trade then which team it is may factor in to Tkachuk being on board with it

[Royle9]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549431252658163713

blow it up.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by madmike

At this point I’m more concerned about how they hit the cap floor next year when Monahan and Lucic are up. No big FAs are going to want to come to Calgary and a lot of the players who are stuck in Calgary are going to want out.

I've never understood this concern. Aside from LTIR or trading for players with low salary/high cap it, couldn't you just vastly overpay someone on a 1 year deal if you were short of the cap floor?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by CroCop

If we can’t keep a guy that we drafted and developed at 24 years old coming off a 105pt personal and 111pt team season in addition to losing Johnny, then the whole thing is broken. Blow it up and pray for a Connor of our own.

The emphasis on American/NCAA players was clearly a mistake.

Canadians, Swedes, Finns, Slovaks, Swiss, Czechs, Russians, Germans, Norwegians, Danes - that’s who we should be spending our picks on.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Torture

I've never understood this concern. Aside from LTIR or trading for players with low salary/high cap it, couldn't you just vastly overpay someone on a 1 year deal if you were short of the cap floor?

I will make the sacrifice. The Flames can pay me $10 million to reach the floor.

You are all welcome.

[GreenLantern2814]

Trade targets should be the best futures we can get, plus salary dumps that might be flippable at the deadline.

We’re not getting back any roster player we’ll be happy with.

Tell Lindholm and Hanifin not to bother unpacking.

Find out where Markstrom would like to be traded.

Do this properly.

Cut the costs of this team while you’re waiting for the new building.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by nik-

But how does that get them a full building and 2-3 home playoffs games every season. That's all they care about. This org doesn't actually give a #### about building a winner. They'll never make the hard decision.

I understand that the owners want that playoff revenue, and it makes total sense when your team is spending to the cap. But if they were to rebuild, couldn't they just offset it by spending under the cap... you know, like most rebuilding teams do?

I don't think Calgary is such a fragile market that fans won't come back once a new core of stars become established and have to get paid. I think as long as there is hope, the fans will come back. That is the big difference between now and the 1990s when there were threats of relocation. It wasn't so much that the fans didn't want to support the team, it was the fact that there was no hope at the time. There was no cap and no way of building or maintaining a competitive team for a smaller market at the time. That is not the case any more.

[EldrickOnIce]

You have to burn it down if Tkachuk is gone.
Everything must go

[mile]

Would rather have Stutzle over Norris

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Cut the costs of this team while you’re waiting for the new building.

There's a new building coming?

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

There's a new building coming?

Yep, right after we get the new mayor

[PeteMoss]

Batherson is another guy who has possible ties to the Hockey Canada allegations. Shouldn't be high on the list to acquire.

[Remember1989]

Well no wonder the team had such a hard damn time being consistently as good as the sum of its parts when the top players had a foot out the door the whole time. What a damn mess.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

You have to burn it down if Tkachuk is gone.
Everything must go

Saddledome too?

What a summer. Is this unprecedented?

It’s like the Sum of all Fears and the nuclear bomb was just detonated.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

There's a new building coming?

Not in our lifetime my friends.

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Just can't believe we're at this possibility, a few months after this: https://calgarysun.com/sports/tkachu...gary-long-term

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Saddledome too?

What a summer. Is this unprecedented?

It’s like the Sum of all Fears and the nuclear bomb was just detonated.

I think Columbus went through it also.

[SuperMatt18]

I think the Flames will try to make this more of a "hockey trade" than a pure rebuild trade.

Hischer+ or Bratt+
Kyrou+
Barzal+

Something like that is my guess.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by flamesrule_kipper34

Just can't believe we're at this possibility, a few months after this: https://calgarysun.com/sports/tkachu...gary-long-term

I think he was pretty tied to Gaudreau staying. I heard some water cooler talk that he was open to staying if Guadreau signed

[OILFAN #81]

Really interested what Lindholm thinks about all of this. He played on a line with these 2 and one is gone and the other is rumored to be gone soon. He can't sign an extension until next summer at the earliest but I wonder if this changes his plans at all.