07-19-2022, 01:11 PM
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#581
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
If I come to Calgary this year I'll be going to an AHL game at this point. Jesus
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The crowds were bad last year because of Covid. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re even worse this season.
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07-19-2022, 01:11 PM
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#582
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Franchise Player
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You can't replace those 2 guys right now, but you can burn it down and do this right.
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07-19-2022, 01:12 PM
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#583
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Tkachuk trades targets.
Anaheim: Mason McTavish, Adam Henrique, 1st round pick.
Buffalo: Jack Quinn, Josh Bloom, Kyle Okposo, 1st round pick.
Ottawa: Josh Norris, Lassi Thomson, 1st round pick
Islanders: Noah Dobson, Brock Nelson, 1st round pick
Detroit: Lucas Raymond, Jakub Vrana, 1st round pick
Seattle: Shane Wright, Jared McCann, 1st round pick
New Jersey: Dawson Mercer, Ryan Graves, Thomas Tatar, 1st round pick (Grave+Tatar for cap)
St. Louis: Neighbors, Kyrou, Tarasenko, 1st (Neighbors+Kyrou to make up for the lower quality prospect)
Not an easy thing to try and throw together and feel good about what you are getting back or then have to deal.
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I am unsure of the NYR cap situation, but they are a team I could see being interested. They took a big step forward last season and I think they might go full into window-mode. Plus, I don't think a one-year deal worries them. They are probably confident that they could sign anyone.
I realize Laf and Kakko haven't broken out yet, but they would still be tempting pieces IMO given their age, potential, and cost control.
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07-19-2022, 01:13 PM
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#584
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by agulati
Tear it to the ground. Sutter probably leaves too, if it is a rebuild.
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But how does that get them a full building and 2-3 home playoffs games every season. That's all they care about. This org doesn't actually give a #### about building a winner. They'll never make the hard decision.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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07-19-2022, 01:13 PM
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#585
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Remember when we were worried about how we were going to keep both Tkachuk and Gaudreau? Never saw this coming.
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At this point I’m more concerned about how they hit the cap floor next year when Monahan and Lucic are up. No big FAs are going to want to come to Calgary and a lot of the players who are stuck in Calgary are going to want out.
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07-19-2022, 01:15 PM
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#586
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by madmike
The crowds were bad last year because of Covid. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re even worse this season.
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Yea you willing to wait a decade or more for that to hopefully come to fruition?
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07-19-2022, 01:16 PM
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#587
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by madmike
At this point I’m more concerned about how they hit the cap floor next year when Monahan and Lucic are up. No big FAs are going to want to come to Calgary and a lot of the players who are stuck in Calgary are going to want out.
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This has never been a problem for any team and it won't be for Calgary. There are always overpaid players on bad contracts that teams are looking to unload.
Free agents have signed here every year and will next year if the team is willing to pay the going rate.
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07-19-2022, 01:16 PM
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#588
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmike
At this point I’m more concerned about how they hit the cap floor next year when Monahan and Lucic are up. No big FAs are going to want to come to Calgary and a lot of the players who are stuck in Calgary are going to want out.
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massive contracts from players on LTIR are traded every season. The Flames will have no issue reaching the floor.
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07-19-2022, 01:17 PM
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#589
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Local media a lot more transparent about this one.
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07-19-2022, 01:17 PM
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#590
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
We literally just saw it happen with another US born player, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it again.
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We will see it again, but not with the name Tkachuk on the back of the jersey. Learning from Pops example, those boys won't leave a nickel on the table
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07-19-2022, 01:17 PM
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#591
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by madmike
At this point I’m more concerned about how they hit the cap floor next year when Monahan and Lucic are up. No big FAs are going to want to come to Calgary and a lot of the players who are stuck in Calgary are going to want out.
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If we go rebuild, which i think we should if Tkachuk leaves, we take on bad contracts for draft picks and prospects.
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07-19-2022, 01:19 PM
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#592
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
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trades! Exciting!
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07-19-2022, 01:19 PM
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#593
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
massive contracts from players on LTIR are traded every season. The Flames will have no issue reaching the floor.
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My god we are the Canadian version of the Coyotes... next we will hear the dome is unsafe and the team will be playing home games at Winsport.
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07-19-2022, 01:20 PM
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#594
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
trades! Exciting!
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BT has generally done better on the trade front, so I'm looking forward to it.
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07-19-2022, 01:21 PM
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#595
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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At this point just don't screw up the trade.
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07-19-2022, 01:23 PM
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#596
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by YYC in LAX
Local media a lot more transparent about this one.
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That is cause Tkachuk is at least being honest and not being a dick if this is how it goes down.
Tkachuk for PLD 
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07-19-2022, 01:26 PM
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#597
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Franchise Player
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Ready for a fresh start. With players who want to be here.
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07-19-2022, 01:28 PM
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#598
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
But how does that get them a full building and 2-3 home playoffs games every season. That's all they care about. This org doesn't actually give a #### about building a winner. They'll never make the hard decision.
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If they spent $60M on this team instead of $80M, that surely offsets the difference between 2-3 home playoff games.
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07-19-2022, 01:28 PM
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#599
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Scoring Winger
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If we can’t keep a guy that we drafted and developed at 24 years old coming off a 105pt personal and 111pt team season in addition to losing Johnny, then the whole thing is broken. Blow it up and pray for a Connor of our own.
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07-19-2022, 01:28 PM
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#600
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
But how does that get them a full building and 2-3 home playoffs games every season. That's all they care about. This org doesn't actually give a #### about building a winner. They'll never make the hard decision.
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Well, I don't see how the Flames are going to make the playoffs after losing 200+points of offense
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