07-19-2022, 01:02 PM
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#561
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
Not sure how this works as if he agrees to sign long term wouldn't the other team just take that info and wait until next season?
Especially if he has limited places he is willing to sign.
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Why would they want to wait until next season if they could have him now?
Also, as long as there is more than one team he's willing to sign with (Blues - hometown, Sens - cap'n bro, Devils - Dad's cousin is the GM, etc.), if you know you're on the list, you'd want to get it locked down rather than taking the risk he changes his mind over the next year.
He could fall madly, deeply in love with a Calgary girl during training camp and decide this is where he wants to stay after all.
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07-19-2022, 01:02 PM
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#562
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Yoho
How did Ott sign Brady long term jeez?
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Overpayment.
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07-19-2022, 01:02 PM
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#563
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by AC
That's definitely a risk, but say STL and OTT are 2 of the teams for obvious reasons. If STL thinks they can wait until he walks as a free agent, you say fine we'll trade him to OTT to sign long-term to play with his brother.
Chances are STL and OTT would both prefer to trade assets and ensure they get exclusive negotiating rights with him I would think.
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For STL there is a lot of value to having him this season too.
Tarasenko, ROR, and Barbashev are UFAs - so this could be a great shot to win another cup before those guys leave.
Thomas and Kyrou are RFAs - Thomas already signed a big deal that kicks in next season, Kryou will be due for a raise.
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07-19-2022, 01:02 PM
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#564
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
That's definitely a risk, but say STL and OTT are 2 of the teams for obvious reasons. If STL thinks they can wait until he walks as a free agent, you say fine we'll trade him to OTT to sign long-term to play with his brother.
Chances are STL and OTT would both prefer to trade assets and ensure they get exclusive negotiating rights with him I would think.
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Fair enough. Hopefully MT is looking at 3 or 4 teams in that case!
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07-19-2022, 01:03 PM
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#565
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by chedder
I'll treat my fandom any way I choose, thank you. I've had season tickets for 17 years. I don't keep renewing to torture myself. I love hockey and the Flames. I like discussing the good and the bad.
I certainly don't see any subject as doom and gloom. I just don't wear rose colored glasses. The management of these two particular players has been poor which, to mean, means management and ownership screwed up. Something has to change or we'll never see real success in this city.
I find it funny that you were so, so wrong on Johnny yet anyone who doesn't drink the kool-aid and agree with you is someone who should cheer for another team.
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First you define what a realist is, now you toss around rose coloured glasses and kool-aid
He's more positive than you, no doubt about it, but I don't think anyone of us get to tell others where the exact perfect middle is and lay claim to it.
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07-19-2022, 01:03 PM
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#566
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Yoho
How did Ott sign Brady long term jeez?
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They have some really good long-term pieces.
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07-19-2022, 01:04 PM
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#567
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
I highly doubt Tkachuk is that beholden to St.Louis.
The buy moved out of there when he was 16 to go play with US national program and then played junior in London. His family is rich rich as well between his dad and brother. All things being equal - I'm sure St.Louis would win but I really doubt he cares that much. His dad played all over the place and got traded a boatload of times.
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In a report, Tkachuk just finished telling Gaudreau (paraphrasing) "Columbus is a lot like St-Louis, very laid back a nice place to live". And said how happy he was for Gaudreau. He clearly likes St-Louis.
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07-19-2022, 01:04 PM
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#568
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I'll preface this by saying I am/was a much bigger Johnny fan than a Chucky fan, but if Matthew doesn't want to sign here long term, then he can GTFO too.
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Originally Posted by AC
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Alrighty then.
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07-19-2022, 01:04 PM
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#569
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
How did Ott sign Brady long term jeez?
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Brady has a lot of core players around him. And just cause they are brothers doesn't mean they think the same.
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07-19-2022, 01:05 PM
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#570
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
In a report, Tkachuk just finished telling Gaudreau (paraphrasing) "Columbus is a lot like St-Louis, very laid back a nice place to live". And said how happy he was for Gaudreau. He clearly likes St-Louis.
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I'm sure he likes it fine. But I doubt he's going to take less money to go there.
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07-19-2022, 01:06 PM
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#571
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Location: victoria
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If I come to Calgary this year I'll be going to an AHL game at this point. Jesus
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07-19-2022, 01:06 PM
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Loves Teh Chat!
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If that's true I sure hope that losing both Tkachuk and Gaudreau triggers a full rebuild. You can't patch that kind of hole with a band-aid fix but I'm sure ownership will give Tre a mandate to limp in with an 8th-9th place finish.
Last edited by Torture; 07-19-2022 at 01:09 PM.
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07-19-2022, 01:07 PM
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#573
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Tear it to the ground. Sutter probably leaves too, if it is a rebuild.
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07-19-2022, 01:09 PM
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#574
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
If I come to Calgary this year I'll be going to an AHL game at this point. Jesus
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Not sure if you mean the actual AHL affiliate or just taking a swipe at the Flames lol.
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07-19-2022, 01:09 PM
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#575
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by agulati
Tear it to the ground. Sutter probably leaves too, if it is a rebuild.
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Lol. Iv been saying this for awhile, but it's not a very popular opinion on here.
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07-19-2022, 01:09 PM
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#576
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Franchise Player
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Remember when we were worried about how we were going to keep both Tkachuk and Gaudreau? Never saw this coming.
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07-19-2022, 01:09 PM
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#577
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by Torture
Sure hope that losing both Tkachuk and Gaudreau triggers a full rebuild. You can't patch that kind of hole with a band-aid fix but I'm sure ownership will give Tre a mandate to limp in with an 8th-9th place finish.
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I imagine they will bandage with whoever comes over in the trade, and then sign a Kadri/Niedoriter type to add.
Just please don’t flip assets to trade and extend Miller.
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07-19-2022, 01:10 PM
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#578
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by OptimalTates
Not sure if you mean the actual AHL affiliate or just taking a swipe at the Flames lol.
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Lol I'll go to a heat game!
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07-19-2022, 01:10 PM
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#579
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
How did Ott sign Brady long term jeez?
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They heavily overpaid based on his prior performance.
Also, keep in mind because it was his second contract, they controlled his rights for the first 4 years of that contract anyway, so they only bought an extra 3 years than where the Flames are if they take a one-year arbitration ruling. So, it's not that "long term". He won't even be 30 when the contract expires.
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07-19-2022, 01:10 PM
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#580
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
I'm sure he likes it fine. But I doubt he's going to take less money to go there.
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We literally just saw it happen with another US born player, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it again.
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