2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Phaneufenstein]

How is Klingberg one dimensional?
He was very much hard to play against both playoffs series vs the Flames
Took a lot of hits and which never faded him
Didn’t give the puck away easily, or gave up grade A chances.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Look at their cap situation.

We lost Gaudreau yes but we are in a far better cap situation than many of the perceived contenders.

People seem to forget that we won our division and a round and still have a top 5 LW, a great 2 way #1 center and a Vezina calibre goalie.

When you lose a superstar, you’ll undoubtedly have more cap space. But now you’re missing a superstar. And odds are, you aren’t a contender anymore.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

When you lose a superstar, you’ll undoubtedly have more cap space. But now you’re missing a superstar. And odds are, you aren’t a contender anymore.

There’s no doubt in my mind that this is a playoff team still.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

There’s no doubt in my mind that this is a playoff team still.

You’re probably right. But they have to replace 115 points somehow. I don’t see anyone currently on the roster fitting that bill.

I think Sutter maxed out pretty much every player last year. None of the young guys from the farm will add that.

So they have to find a free agent who could add 80 points or so or two free agents who could add 50. Kadri is the only guy left in that category. Unless some of the contenders need to dump salary.

The flames will not be negotiating from a position of strength. Johnny really stuck a stake through Treliving’s heart.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Phaneufenstein

How is Klingberg one dimensional?
He was very much hard to play against both playoffs series vs the Flames
Took a lot of hits and which never faded him
Didn’t give the puck away easily, or gave up grade A chances.

I agree. We lost to the stars a few years ago and I couldn't believe how tough he was to play against. I'd take him on this team easily.

I only would go for him though assuming Tkachuk wants to stay. Adding Klingberg makes our d very good and improves our PP. Most of our best prospects are forwards so if any of them are better than expected it could work out

If it doesn't then if you do sell at the deadline maybe you move Tanev for the best return you can get and keep Klingberg and Andersson

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

There’s no doubt in my mind that this is a playoff team still.

I think Vegas will be back in a pretty big way this year.

Vegas, Edmonton, Calgary, Los Angeles and an outside shot of Vancouver are the 5 teams "in it" from the Pacific Division.

Even as we are today, assuming Mangiapane and Tkachuk return, yeah I don't get the argument that we aren't a playoff team. I'd say Los Angeles and Calgary would be battling for the 3rd spot in the Pacific.

[Hackey]

The division is weak so the Flames should land the 3rd spot but you can't count out the Kings. They could take another step. Might set up a round 1 battle of Alberta again

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think Vegas will be back in a pretty big way this year.

Vegas, Edmonton, Calgary, Los Angeles and an outside shot of Vancouver are the 5 teams "in it" from the Pacific Division.

Even as we are today, assuming Mangiapane and Tkachuk return, yeah I don't get the argument that we aren't a playoff team. I'd say Los Angeles and Calgary would be battling for the 3rd spot in the Pacific.

I wouldn't be surprised if LA wins the division though. IMO they are the favourites in the Pacific

[GioforPM]

I wonder if you can’t sign Kadri at the price he wants if you can make a decent trade to help Colorado shed cap. Get Girard (maybe with retention) but make them add a good piece like Newhook. Hell, we’ll take Logan O’Connor as a throw in because he’s local.

[442scotty]

Unless one or two guys from the heat come up and make a difference I think it’s gonna be tough to make the playoffs.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I wonder if you can’t sign Kadri at the price he wants if you can make a decent trade to help Colorado shed cap. Get Girard (maybe with retention) but make them add a good piece like Newhook. Hell, we’ll take Logan O’Connor as a throw in because he’s local.

Girard isn't a negative asset. If they need to move him they will find plenty of takers without adding a huge sweetener like Newhook

[GreenLantern2814]

I’m leery of signing a guy they successfully bullied and targeted during the playoffs, but it’s tough to deny Klingberg is exactly the sort of dynamic element the blue line is missing.

Career 0.67 PPG D who only costs money.

He’d be their best #3 since Phaneuf.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Girard isn't a negative asset. If they need to move him they will find plenty of takers without adding a huge sweetener like Newhook

I didn’t talk about Calgary’s side of the trade - I think we’d be sending a decent but cheaper Dman back - Kylington maybe. But if they really want to shed salary but can’t there’s a bargain to be had.

Any team that trades equal value will be sending equal salary back and that doesn’t help them. I don’t see valuable picks for Girard because no one in that position wants or needs him.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Phaneufenstein

How is Klingberg one dimensional?
He was very much hard to play against both playoffs series vs the Flames
Took a lot of hits and which never faded him
Didn’t give the puck away easily, or gave up grade A chances.

He would be the Flames best defenseman and probably one of their best players the minute he was signed.
For how many years....
Not sure about a lengthy deal, but that's life in the NHL.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by blender

He would be the Flames best defenseman and probably one of their best players the minute he was signed.
For how many years....
Not sure about a lengthy deal, but that's life in the NHL.

Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangiapane
Klingberg-Andersson

That’s a different-looking PP1 than we’ve had in a long time.

All three forwards are excellent at puck retrieval and working the front of the net. Monahan and Lucic also have good net-front games.

Work it back to either D, have Klingberg on the left side for the one-timer, and bombs away.

There’s a certain simplicity to it that I appreciate.

Plus, I know we wouldn’t be signing him for his defensive acumen, but having another elite-skating D to throw on the ice against McDavid isn’t the worst idea.

They’ve currently got three guys signed past the next two years - the cap situation is actually pretty flexible sans Gaudreau.

[iloveicedhockey]

Only just now reading about Dubois turning up at the draft convinced he was getting his move to Montreal. Wild stuff.

[littlereddevil]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

Only just now reading about Dubois turning up at the draft convinced he was getting his move to Montreal. Wild stuff.

I heard that those rumours of a trade between Montreal and Winnipeg have some substance. Dubois clearly thinks he's going to Montreal (and wants to).

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

Unless one or two guys from the heat come up and make a difference I think it’s gonna be tough to make the playoffs.

I have a feeling Pelletier and Mackey will have an impact this year.

We still need another impact forward though.

[Heavy Jack]

Friedman and Marek calling Detroit Klingberg‘s ultimate destination on their last podcast. Detroit has the space and from all the moves they’ve made this summer adding a Klingberg to the mix would be huge for them, especially their young d core. I mean they still have 10 mill in cap space and so far they’ve added

Husso
Copp
Perron
Kubalik
Chariot
Maatta
Pysyk
Kampfer

Pretty crazy off-season if you’re a redwings fan

[Heavy Jack]

I’m not a fan that’s hoping to drop big dollars on Kadri but without question our biggest glaring need even when Gaudreau was here has been a number 2 centre, especially ever since Mony started breaking down with his health. Do I think Kadri’s output last year is sustainable, especially on a team without the fire power of Colorado? I do not… but the Flames are in a tough spot with this core and if the message right now is to push to win I don’t see how they don’t try to get Kadri. The drop off in the UFA market at centre is considerable



Where do you guys sit with this? Obviously if we are dropping the kind of money it’ll take to land Kadri we’ll definitely need to shed Lucic salary and may need to find a way to shed Mony down the road. Tkachuk is the key in all of this as investing in a Kadri makes no sense if you can only get Chucky to commit to a 1 year qualifying offer… so yet again we are stuck at the mercy of a decision with one of our star players. Hopefully Treliving can navigate a quicker decision this time; ultimately I’m of the opinion that the team commits to a reload of some fashion and trade Tkachuk this off-season while focusing on trading some of our other pieces at some point through the season after determining where the team is at.