2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Heavy Jack]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547961001408024577

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Debrincat who is in a very similar situation to Tkachuk from a contract perspective just got

7th overall pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick

So that's probably your starting point for a Tkachuk deal.

Debrincat has two years of control left, Tkachuk has but one. A huge difference.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Don't under estimate the Tkachuk brothers angle and the marketing of that, ticket sales etc.
Especially in Ottawa where that's very important.

If they new they were extending Matthew's contract too, having both brothers under long term contracts would be massive for that franchise who loses players all the time.

I agree, but Stultze is their most important player, the #1 centre they are building around. He's going no where.

Ottawa has signed the majority of their core players long term now.

And if Tkachuk signs his QO, he can't be signed to a long term contract right now. So, July 22 becomes an important date.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I agree, but Stultze is their most important player, the #1 centre they are building around. He's going no where.

Ottawa has signed the majority of their core players long term now.

And if Tkachuk signs his QO, he can't be signed to a long term contract right now. So, July 22 becomes an important date.

Can't you sign him to an extension even if he accepts his 1 year QO?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Debrincat who is in a very similar situation to Tkachuk from a contract perspective just got

7th overall pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick

So that's probably your starting point for a Tkachuk deal.

Debrincat: 24 years old (Dec 18 1997) - GP: 368 G: 160 G/GP: 0.43 P: 307 P/GP: 0.83

Tkachuk: 24 years old (Dec 11 1997) - GP: 431 G: 152 G/GP: 0.35 P: 382 P/GP: 0.88

I'm not sure you're ever going to find a more direct comparison in a trade than that. Hell they are born 7 days apart even. Debrincat is actually in a better contract situation because it's more like Tkachuk last year. He has 1 year at $6.4M, before he needs to be qualified at $9M next year and that would take him right to UFA.

Career high 78 points vs 105 though.

I agree they're very similar outside of that, but all the more reason this is the time to cash in on Tkachuk.
The return should start with the Debrincat deal and add to it.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I'm not so sure of that.

I don't think Byfield is considered as great a prospect as he once was, but I would defer to someone who might have a better sense of this.

He's generally considered one of the top 3 prospects in the game. He's had some injuries but the package of size, skating and hockey sense is still all there.

They ain't moving him. Let alone for Hanifin. He's a huge part of their plan. He's the heir to Kopitar.

[Royle9]

Byfield is the next Nolan Patrick.
Book it.

The guy was sadly overhyped his draft year, Stuzle was easily the best player available.

I think Byfield could play in the NHL but a bottom 6 role, he doesn't have the impact factor you would expect from such a high draft pick. Sadly he's also had injury problems now, I'm not sure I'd trade Hanifin 1 for 1 for Byfield tbh.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Career high 78 points vs 105 though.

I agree they're very similar outside of that, but all the more reason this is the time to cash in on Tkachuk.
The return should start with the Debrincat deal and add to it.

The difference between two years of control and 1 year is huge. There is no reason to expect that two years of Debrincat is worth less than one year of Tkachuk.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No time for thinking. Must demand Treliving be fired based on random tweet.

Agree. Has to happen now to make sense.

Author’s note: I wrote this without reading subsequent posts and am sure this could be a double fata.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No time for thinking. Must demand Treliving be fired based on random tweet.

Where was my demand to fire Tre?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Byfield is the next Nolan Patrick.
Book it.

The guy was sadly overhyped his draft year, Stuzle was easily the best player available.

I think Byfield could play in the NHL but a bottom 6 role, he doesn't have the impact factor you would expect from such a high draft pick. Sadly he's also had injury problems now, I'm not sure I'd trade Hanifin 1 for 1 for Byfield tbh.

Nolan Patrick’s career was derailed by injuries. Nothing else.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Nolan Patrick’s career was derailed by injuries. Nothing else.

Yep, and Byfield has had a significant wrist and ankle injury already.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Can't you sign him to an extension even if he accepts his 1 year QO?

IIRC, he can only be signed to an extension starting Jan 1, 2023, if he accepts his QO.

I believe its to prevent teams from signing a one year deal to be immediately followed up with a multi-year deal the next day. Example, you sign for $1M today for this year, and we'll sign you to an 8 year extension worth $10M per year tomorrow.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Yep, and Byfield has had a significant wrist and ankle injury already.

That’s true but Patrick’s are a long term lingering head problem.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547961001408024577

If the Flames aren't going to rebuild, which they clearly aren't, Kadri would be a good add IMO, just hopefully no more than 4 years x $6 or 7 million AAV.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

If the Flames aren't going to rebuild, which they clearly aren't, Kadri would be a good add IMO, just hopefully no more than 4 years x $6 or 7 million AAV.

Problem is, there is no chance you can get him for that.

Kadri will either re-sign with the Avs, or be wildly over-priced (possibly both).

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Problem is, there is no chance you can get him for that.

Kadri will either re-sign with the Avs, or be wildly over-priced (possibly both).

Is he going to get that with the Avs? They’re okay for space this year if the move Compher, but the next year they have a ton of contracts to sign, including MacKinnon.

[dissentowner]

I would be ok with 5 yrs @ 8M aav max but that's it on Kadri. I do think if the Flames intend to compete again the big hole on this roster has always been second line C. We are fine on the wings.

[Burning Beard]

Kadri would be just what the doctor ordered for this team. Interesting to see what transpires. Kadri, Mangiapane and Tkachuk would be a scrum waiting to happen every single shift.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Where was my demand to fire Tre?

Wasn't in reference to you. And was also... a joke