Mathew Tkachuk and other key RFA signing watch thread

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Well, blowing it up does not appear to be on the table, so that's a moot point.

Perhaps not now, but what’s the plan if Tkachuk simply signs the QO?

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

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[MrMike]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Perhaps not now, but what’s the plan if Tkachuk simply signs the QO?

Trade for assets that can plug and play, young with some cost control and contract control. Continue trying to compete.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think Treliving would have been honest with Zadorov about the direction of the team. He really doesn't strike me as a liar, so this team is not rebuilding this season.


I would be surprised if Tkachuk doesn't extend long-term. He may be a tough negotiator, but there is risk on both sides now.


Calgary doesn't want to lose their other high-profile player.
Tkachuk knows without Gaudreau, he is likely not to repeat his 40 goal, 100pt season. I mean, nobody is going to pay him as a 40 goal, 100 point perennial player after achieving the feat just once, but it is certainly easier to sign for more money and term after such a season than one where he finishes with only 20 odd goals and 70 odd points. Plus there is always a chance at injury that changes your ability (like Monahan's appears to).



Plus, there is a strong chance he gets to be captain. Getting traded to another team almost assures that he is not captain for at least a season or two. I am sure it grinds his gears a bit knowing his younger brother is a captain and he isn't.


I will be surprised if Tkachuk isn't signed in the next week or two.


Then Treliving gets to look forward to Mangiapane, and considering his agent's previous remarks, this should be a fun one. I thought Gaudreau would have re-signed, and Mangiapane would have been trade bait. I guess we will see what happens there. Kylington should be the easiest to negotiate obviously.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think Treliving would have been honest with Zadorov about the direction of the team. He really doesn't strike me as a liar, so this team is not rebuilding this season.


I would be surprised if Tkachuk doesn't extend long-term. He may be a tough negotiator, but there is risk on both sides now.


Calgary doesn't want to lose their other high-profile player.
Tkachuk knows without Gaudreau, he is likely not to repeat his 40 goal, 100pt season. I mean, nobody is going to pay him as a 40 goal, 100 point perennial player after achieving the feat just once, but it is certainly easier to sign for more money and term after such a season than one where he finishes with only 20 odd goals and 70 odd points. Plus there is always a chance at injury that changes your ability (like Monahan's appears to).



Plus, there is a strong chance he gets to be captain. Getting traded to another team almost assures that he is not captain for at least a season or two. I am sure it grinds his gears a bit knowing his younger brother is a captain and he isn't.


I will be surprised if Tkachuk isn't signed in the next week or two.


Then Treliving gets to look forward to Mangiapane, and considering his agent's previous remarks, this should be a fun one. I thought Gaudreau would have re-signed, and Mangiapane would have been trade bait. I guess we will see what happens there. Kylington should be the easiest to negotiate obviously.

I think Tkachuk accepts his qualifying offer as that walks him to free agency.

[NOISIA]

Originally Posted by Zoller

I think Tkachuk accepts his qualifying offer as that walks him to free agency.

Why hasn’t he accepted it already then?

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by NOISIA

Why hasn’t he accepted it already then?

Probably waiting to see how Johnny turned out.

If we don't get Chucky locked up longer than the year I think it's a mistake on both sides. He's unlikely to repeat 40 g 100 p.

Given he's 24 I think a 5 year deal is ideal for both sides. Think that was Jiri's idea.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by NOISIA

Why hasn’t he accepted it already then?

He's in Greece with his family according into Instagram. You can bet Walt is coaching him on how to maximize

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[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think Treliving would have been honest with Zadorov about the direction of the team. He really doesn't strike me as a liar, so this team is not rebuilding this season.


I would be surprised if Tkachuk doesn't extend long-term. He may be a tough negotiator, but there is risk on both sides now.


Calgary doesn't want to lose their other high-profile player.
Tkachuk knows without Gaudreau, he is likely not to repeat his 40 goal, 100pt season. I mean, nobody is going to pay him as a 40 goal, 100 point perennial player after achieving the feat just once, but it is certainly easier to sign for more money and term after such a season than one where he finishes with only 20 odd goals and 70 odd points. Plus there is always a chance at injury that changes your ability (like Monahan's appears to).



Plus, there is a strong chance he gets to be captain. Getting traded to another team almost assures that he is not captain for at least a season or two. I am sure it grinds his gears a bit knowing his younger brother is a captain and he isn't.


I will be surprised if Tkachuk isn't signed in the next week or two.


Then Treliving gets to look forward to Mangiapane, and considering his agent's previous remarks, this should be a fun one. I thought Gaudreau would have re-signed, and Mangiapane would have been trade bait. I guess we will see what happens there. Kylington should be the easiest to negotiate obviously.

Tkachuk will take his time and sign just before or during training camp. It's what they do. He's been qualified. What risk does he have? Sign his one year and go to UFA and pick where he wants to go next July.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Zoller

I think Tkachuk accepts his qualifying offer as that walks him to free agency.

It could happen, but I think there is mutual interest in a long term deal. The only question is, is there mutual interest in a long term deal in Calgary.

But I think Chucky is aware he’s coming of his best season. There is risk his value lowers next year and not much chance it increases, so he’ll be motivated for term and dollars. The Flames won’t want to go in to the season with another Gaudreau risk and Chucky’s trade value is likely highest before season starts.

Point being, neither side likely want the QO signed at this point.

[christoph186]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

It could happen, but I think there is mutual interest in a long term deal. The only question is, is there mutual interest in a long term deal in Calgary.

But I think Chucky is aware he’s coming of his best season. There is risk his value lowers next year and not much chance it increases, so he’ll be motivated for term and dollars. The Flames won’t want to go in to the season with another Gaudreau risk and Chucky’s trade value is likely highest before season starts.

Point being, neither side likely want the QO signed at this point.

That’s very well thought out, I agree — or I wonder if they look at Ottawa or St Louis for a potential trade.

[Mephisto]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

Probably waiting to see how Johnny turned out.

If we don't get Chucky locked up longer than the year I think it's a mistake on both sides. He's unlikely to repeat 40 g 100 p.

Given he's 24 I think a 5 year deal is ideal for both sides. Think that was Jiri's idea.

I like this 5 years idea. What does that contract look like - minimum $9 million AAV because of the QO?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Paying 10.5 for Gaudreau is different than paying that or more for Tkachuk

I'm almost certain Tkachuk would get more on the open market than Gaudreau

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Tkachuk will take his time and sign just before or during training camp. It's what they do. He's been qualified. What risk does he have? Sign his one year and go to UFA and pick where he wants to go next July.

Yeah Treliving can’t wait that long, he has to find out one way or another here in the next few weeks.

[JTech780]

I do wonder if Treliving circles around to Dvorak from Montreal and tries to bring in some of Tkachuk’s buddies or former teammates, in an effort to convince him to stick around.

I think Treliving has looked at Dvorak before.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm almost certain Tkachuk would get more on the open market than Gaudreau

Yeah, his age alone would get him more. You have to overpay in dollars to get an asset with no acquisition cost, and to get one who likely hasn't even peaked yet, would be quite the catch. In 7 or 8 years, Tkachuk should be pretty productive still.

I think people under estimate him as a player on his own. Yeah, playing with Gaudreau helped him get more points, but he is an elite player in his own right and also makes players around him better. I am not sure Johnny would have reached 100 points without Tkachuk on his line as well. It was a 2-way street.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Tkachuk will take his time and sign just before or during training camp. It's what they do. He's been qualified. What risk does he have? Sign his one year and go to UFA and pick where he wants to go next July.

But he has a deadline to sign the QO, I think July 22. And if he signs it, he can’t negotiate an extension until Jan 1 I believe, which means he couldn’t be traded with an extension in place until then, to maximize value.

[Vinny01]

If Chucky decides he wants out and the Flames can get a return for him it will sting but I think people will be happier he was honest about what he wanted and not leaving us for nothing. I also wonder with the keys to the franchise right there for him if he doesn’t consider staying here for 6-8 years. A 6 year deal lines up with Brady’s UFA status and Chucky would still only be 30.

If he wants to be a captain I think he stays here because I am sure they are offering it

[kyuss275]

Tre has a lot of work to do . First priority obviously is Tkachuk but let’s not forget about Mangiapane. That probably won’t be easy either. His agent is on record saying that he is advising Mangiapane to sign the qualifying offer . 3 of our top 4 goal scorers could be gone within in a year.

[PeteMoss]

I see it as a 0% chance Tkachuk signs for anything less than the maximum length of a contract.