Mathew Tkachuk and other key RFA signing watch thread

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Tkachuk will do whatever he needs to to strengthen his negotiating position. That much is clear.

So weaken his position with a deadline.

[dissentowner]

We can get a great return for Tkachuk regardless of the one year left. Why? Tkachuk is not stupid, he is going to sign a big ticket deal this summer no matter where he is because there is no chance he is going to risk having a bad year. Tkachuk's are money savvy, he is going to cash in and GMs know this. Anyone trading for Tkachuk is getting him for 6-8 years for sure so stop thinking we are going to get a lowball return. No matter where he is he is signing a big deal with that team this offseason.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

lol why wouldn't Tkachuk elect for arbitration? He's not getting less than $9 million as an arbitration award. He just put up 104 points.

Because if he elects arbitration the Flames get to choose whether the contract is a 1 or 2 year deal. Sure he'd likely get a bit more then his qualifying offer but he'd be delaying his UFA eligibility and exposing himself to twice the risk.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Because if he elects arbitration the Flames get to choose whether the contract is a 1 or 2 year deal. Sure he'd likely get a bit more then his qualifying offer but he'd be delaying his UFA eligibility and exposing himself to twice the risk.

Tkachuk is in his final RFA year, so the choice between 1 or 2 years doesn't apply. It is an automatic 1 year deal either way.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Because if he elects arbitration the Flames get to choose whether the contract is a 1 or 2 year deal. Sure he'd likely get a bit more then his qualifying offer but he'd be delaying his UFA eligibility and exposing himself to twice the risk.

I thought the arbiter decided contract length?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Because if he elects arbitration the Flames get to choose whether the contract is a 1 or 2 year deal. Sure he'd likely get a bit more then his qualifying offer but he'd be delaying his UFA eligibility and exposing himself to twice the risk.

I’m not sure at all about him getting more than $9M. Arbitrators look at his performance over several years and comparables. The guy that got him to where he is just got 9.75. Most wingers of his average production get less than 9. 4 LWs (his natural position) and 5 RWs make more and they are almost all significantly better than him.

[rhino]

You get a pretty good return for Tkachuk on the RFA status, you get a greater return if he agrees to a deal with that new team prior to the trade

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I think it's highly highly highly unlikely that Tkachuk will elect arbitration... he'll either sign the QO or a longterm contract.

I don't know, I can get on board with highly unlikely, but highly highly highly unlikely seems a bit much.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

We can get a great return for Tkachuk regardless of the one year left. Why? Tkachuk is not stupid, he is going to sign a big ticket deal this summer no matter where he is because there is no chance he is going to risk having a bad year. Tkachuk's are money savvy, he is going to cash in and GMs know this. Anyone trading for Tkachuk is getting him for 6-8 years for sure so stop thinking we are going to get a lowball return. No matter where he is he is signing a big deal with that team this offseason.

No chance? I think I've heard that song before.

I expect no team will simply assume this. Especially since the cost to get him to sign in advance will he huge in terms of dollars.

[Geeoff]

Personally, I think Tkachuk will re-sign as long as the Flames offer him a ####load of money.

[tony-soprano]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

I've personally got a feeling of dread regarding Tkachuk's long term future with the team if he decides to go to arbitration. Only time will tell.

Tough time to be an optimistic Flames fan.

We were optimistic about Johnny, we might see the reverse here with Chucky.

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Personally, I think Tkachuk will re-sign as long as the Flames offer him a ####load of money.

If he commits, make him the captain and lets roll!

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Personally, I think Tkachuk will re-sign as long as the Flames offer him a ####load of money.

therein lies the danger though. Without Gaudreau, is Tkachuk the kind of player you want to make your centerpiece to build around for the next 8 years? I'm not sure it's that straightforward.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Personally, I think Tkachuk will re-sign as long as the Flames offer him a ####load of money.

Agree with this. I think Tkachuk will be motivated by 1. Money, and 2. Chance to win. Not sure which order but I don’t think he cares where he plays as long as 1 and 2 are taken care of.

Another thing to consider, is that there have been observations in the past that he and Gaudreau may not have been very close (think the fighting incident at tue end of the game when several flames including Gaudreau left the ice for tkachuk to fend for himself). You don’t see those two together socially on social media either.

Probably doesn’t matter really, but my point is that I don’t fear that Gaudreau’s departure is going to affect Tkachuk very much, if at all.

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Personally, I think Tkachuk will re-sign as long as the Flames offer him a ####load of money.

Which means it's time for him to go.

Can we have 1 less selfish , self seeking , greedy , immature player on this team? We just had one bail on us so the other can join him elsewhere f9r all I GAF.

Honestly. Tie up loose ends on this RIGHT F ing NOW!!!

This isn't the way to conduct business ....when you suspect someone's going to pull shady sneaky sideways BS ....they are.

I hate that the idea that "this is how the Tkachuks do things " is an acceptable solution. It's almost a threat and if I was GM and I was dealing with disingenuous people I'd call them out on their BS and eliminate entirely this situation we've found ourselves in.

Bottom line ....BT needs to ASAP tell Matthew " you need to tell me right now your intent here because this IS NOT happening ever again.

[FanIn80]

Sign Chucky long term, make him captain and build around him. He's still in his early 20s, had all the tools and one of the best toolboxes in the league to keep them in. I see more ability in him to lead a team to a championship than a lot of other captains.

[saillias]

So if you follow Flames players on instagram some like Backlund and Lucic will re-share the Flames news. The thank you note to Johnny, Zadorov re-signing etc. Tkachuk is active on the app but he has does none of that. His recent stories were a) his family trip to Greece and b) a congrats to Robert Thomas on his contract with St. Louis.

[djsFlames]

I too think Tkachuk can be bought with money, unlike John.

His brother is playing North of the border long term also.

The thing with Tkachuk is he's at the age still where he's on the upswing. He's just entering his prime. Theres nothing wrong with having a player around like that even if we retool (i don't believe in stripping it all down for parts just because), but I do hope he learned a few things from the last couple playoff runs.

[Macman]

I won’t read too much into what players say on social media publicly, they have each other’s numbers most likely and send their congrats or whatever that way and away from public scrutiny.

I still think Tkachuk is a good guy, very well spoken guy and wants to win. He’s grown up in a prominent family so money more than likely isn’t the most important thing to him, still important but what’s more important to that family is winning a cup, I don’t think Keith ever did win it.
The Flames are still a good team for Matthew.

[saillias]

You can think that but I've seen enough over the years. So many rumors and innuendo. Started with the Shane O Brien podcast thing last summer and the Eichel trade rumor from Weekes. Andy Strickland on twitter has been hinting at it for years. Then this last weekend at the draft supposedly talks for 2nd overall. Individually you can dismiss all these things as bull#### but when it happens every 6 months or so it seems a little odd. Either there's nothing there and there's just a grand conspiracy to throw him under the bus and into fake trade rumors or he just genuinely wants out and they've been trying to trade him. The instagram stuff just sort of gives a window into where his priorities are.

[Ashasx]

If you can only keep Tkachuk by vastly overpaying him, why do it,?