Mathew Tkachuk and other key RFA signing watch thread

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

You simply cannot start the season with Tkachuk on a one year contract.

If they let that happen, all you can really do is laugh.

[devo22]

Flames better learn from their mistakes here. Offer Tkachuk an 8 year deal with a deadline - if he doesn't sign, you have to trade him, period. Absolutely can't go into the season with him on a one year deal after what just happened.

[Zoller]

Sibling rivalry

Matthew wants to make more than his brother

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by devo22

Flames better learn from their mistakes here. Offer Tkachuk an 8 year deal with a deadline - if he doesn't sign, you have to trade him, period. Absolutely can't go into the season with him on a one year deal after what just happened.

Ya, cause this team is so good at learning lessons. I hope your right, but I could easily see them hanging on and trying to win again this year even if he signs a 1 year QA.

[Vinny01]

I will tell you this. A Tkachuk 8 year extension is exactly what this fanbase needs right now and it will launch him into a new level of love with this fanbase who already loves him.

If Chucky locked in and had a press conference about being loyal to the city and fans stating he wants to be here I think it is what we need right now. Make him captain, give him $11M if that is what it takes because he is now the franchise player. We know this organization is opposed to a rebuild so we must try and build around Chucky if he is willing to stay.

If he is not willing to stick it out I hope he is honest and let’s them know so we can find a trade partner now and not be in the same spot as we were just in with Gaudreau.

Also hoping to get Mangiapane on a 4-6 year deal between 5-6M

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Exactly...unfortunately trading him know is so much harder as so many teams that would want him have no cap space.

Who in a position to compete has 9 mil plus to spend.

The Flames should be willing to take contracts back to make it work.

You have to imagine that both NJ and NYI are disappointed in losing Gaudreau. The Flames can easily make a trade work with either team.

And St. Louis will always be in the mix.

[DionTheDman]

I don't think we can compete at this point, and would be supportive of him being traded for a lottery ticket and a young C. His value is high right now. I just don't know if the brain trust will stomach an actual rebuild. Especially in a scenario where we have several favourable contracts, and our first actual #1 G in ages.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Ya, cause this team is so good at learning lessons. I hope your right, but I could easily see them hanging on and trying to win again this year even if he signs a 1 year QA.

one has to hope. If getting burned like that doesn't make you pivot, nothing will.

[The Original FFIV]

I think this a lot of this depends on what the coach sees in Tkachuk. If Sutter views him favourably, then I can see Treliving pursuing a long term extension. If the coach is not a fan, then I can see Treliving being more open to moving him. All moot if the player doesn't want to be here. And I agree with Ashax, NYI/NJD probably feel jilted by Johnny spurning them for Columbus, probably some motivation to make a big splash, NJD moreso than NYI (who knows what LL is thinking, and I can't see him being easy to negotiate with, whether that be on a trade (Treliving) or contract (Tkachuk).

[Heavy Jack]

I’d be wary of offering tkachuk 11x8 personally and I like the player. I think unquestionably players are going to have their production/numbers walked back quite a bit with the departure of Johnny so I’m hope the Flames use good judgment. 9.25 would be my max AAV with Chucky and if he lumps that instead of likes it then it’s time for this team to realize the writing is on the wall and they should cut their loses and sell for draft and futures capital. No matter what happens though don’t continue to drag all this out, I get there’s a process to all this but at some point it can’t be at the detriment of the team.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by devo22

one has to hope. If getting burned like that doesn't make you pivot, nothing will.

Ya, that's true just hard to think positive after watching the management of this team over the years.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I still like the idea of a 3-5 year deal that gives the team some additional years of service but also gives him one more big contract to cash in on.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

My predictions are:

Tkachuk - 8yrs @ $9.25M
Mangiapane - 6yrs @ $4.85M
Kylington - 3yrs @ $3.00M

for Mangiapane.

Seems pretty fair to me, but do you think he'd sign for that long at that low of a salary?
With the way his trajectory has gone, I'd think he'd be looking for more.
Wonder if he'd want a bridge deal to try and inflate his value.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Did I hear correctly that Tkachuk only has until July 22nd to accept his QO?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't think that's going to be a problem. It's in his best interest to sign it.

This isn't quite how it works.

Tkachuk has until the 22nd to accept the qualifying offer and a one-year contract for $9 million, or he can reject it and go to arbitration, which will happen likely in early August.

He may accept the qualifying offer, but even if he's set on a one-year deal, he may want to go to arbitration and get more than $9 million.

It may be in his best interest to go to arbitration (unless the Flames trade him to a team he wants to sign long-term with).

[Jiri Hrdina]

If he goes to arbitration the Flames can accept a 2 year deal yes?

[DinnerDog]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

for Mangiapane.

Seems pretty fair to me, but do you think he'd sign for that long at that low of a salary?
With the way his trajectory has gone, I'd think he'd be looking for more.
Wonder if he'd want a bridge deal to try and inflate his value.

I agree this may be what he does, but I think it would be risky without Gaudreau on the team drawing teams top pairings and top lines. I guess the other side of that is he potentially gets the chance to play with Lindholm and Tkachuk (presumably)..

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This isn't quite how it works.

Tkachuk has until the 22nd to accept the qualifying offer and a one-year contract for $9 million, or he can reject it and go to arbitration, which will happen likely in early August.

He may accept the qualifying offer, but even if he's set on a one-year deal, he may want to go to arbitration and get more than $9 million.

It may be in his best interest to go to arbitration (unless the Flames trade him to a team he wants to sign long-term with).

If he wants go get to free agency next season it's best that he accepts the Flames qualifying offer. You don't typically see players go to arbitration with QO's this large.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If he wants go get to free agency next season it's best that he accepts the Flames qualifying offer.

The idea is that he could go to free agency next season and also get more than $9 million.

[Enoch Root]

I do not want to see the team build around Tkachuk. After losing their best player, they need to rebuild. But if they sign Tkachuk to a big contract, they will continue to build around that. And IMO, that is several years of mediocrity looming in the headlights.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If he goes to arbitration the Flames can accept a 2 year deal yes?

if I understand it correctly, it's a one year deal either way because it's Tkachuk's final RFA year.

Players who are in their final year Restricted Free Agency are only entitled to a 1 year term.

https://www.capfriendly.com/arbitration