[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million) - Page 29 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Roughneck · 07-13-2022, 06:28 PM

I guess all I can say is that being a Flames fan for 30 years has prepared me well for a moment like this.

Muta · 07-13-2022, 06:28 PM

Gaudreau to the Flames and the world of hockey:

Jay Random · 07-13-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You say that makes no sense but the reality is that signing in Columbus makes no sense so clearly there's something that kept him from committing to Calgary.

I'm coming around to the view that he really only wanted to play in Philly, and didn't find out that was impossible until he had already burned his bridges here. So he panicked and took the next plausible offer he could get.

SuperMatt18 · 07-13-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

What a slap in the face to all his team mates here too.

Some of them spent many years here with him building up to a 111 point team that killed in the advanced stats department. As Tre said they took another step.

He just took a big #### on all of them too.

If I’m Coleman I’m pissed.

Supposedly Gaudreau played a big role in recruiting him, Coleman probably could have went home to Dallas.

Then Gaudreau leaves a year later.

dustygoon · 07-13-2022, 06:29 PM

After living in the other thread of darkness for days and days and becoming pretty tired of the circular posts, I have to say this thread is a legit ray of sunshine. Laughing my head off at some of the comments. Cathartic stuff. This is why I love this group.

Fischy13 · 07-13-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Since we are making stuff up. My made up scenario is that he wanted it to be Philly.
Philly perhaps communicated to him that they could clear the room required to make him the offer he needed.
Then they couldn't or decided they didn't want to give up the asset required (1st) to dump JVR.
When Philly backed out, CBJ came storming in...and Johnny's agent advised him to sign because the game of musical chairs was coming to an end, and he might be left without a chair.

The only flaw in that is I can't figure out what happened to NJD.

I’m 100%,with you on this. My thought is, growing up a Flyers fan, you hate NJD. Like us becoming NHL’ers and signing with Edmonton. You take a minor haircut to not have to play for a team you hate so much. Glencross did it, he was an Alberta boy. Only after Edmonton upset him and didn’t offer him a deal when they chased Vanek. Out of spite, he signed in Calgary and it worked out for him.

the-rasta-masta · 07-13-2022, 06:29 PM

I'm willing to unban Gaudreauvertime, maybe they have some insight... don't get this at all.

WCW Nitro · 07-13-2022, 06:30 PM

Oh I get it now, Ohio is always an important state in the U.S. elections and Johnny wants to influence the outcome

browna · 07-13-2022, 06:30 PM

- Mess up by the Flyers who knew since JG was in his junior year at BC he could be theirs in 7-10 years, which is today, for free.

-Mess up by other even remotely interested teams out east that he could be available and to have space. Maybe he didn't want to play for NJ becuase of his allegiance to Philly. Same with NY. Rivalry matters.

-Massive miss by his agent throughout the process in reading the market

-Miss by JG sticking with Gross after (or before) this.

He won't spend 7 years in CLB, he'll be on the Flyers in 2 or 3 and maybe that's part of the play here...go somewhere closer to home, get the big contract, play a couple years in anonymity and then make a move to Philly when they have their house in order.

It's the only explanation, I can't see him agonizing over his Flames legacy or closer to family meant so much if it was CLB he targetted the whole time.

monkeyman · 07-13-2022, 06:31 PM

####, it’s getting ugly in here. I honestly won’t go there, especially when someone is making personal choices based on family.
All I’ll say is good luck Johnny, thanks for the memories.
I think his departure opens up possibilities to move the team in a new direction and provides opportunities for others. Maybe this opens up spots for guys like Phillips.

CF84 · 07-13-2022, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Since we are making stuff up. My made up scenario is that he wanted it to be Philly.
Philly perhaps communicated to him that they could clear the room required to make him the offer he needed.
Then they couldn't or decided they didn't want to give up the asset required (1st) to dump JVR.
When Philly backed out, CBJ came storming in...and Johnny's agent advised him to sign because the game of musical chairs was coming to an end, and he might be left without a chair.

The only flaw in that is I can't figure out what happened to NJD.

Maybe NJD is to Johnny what the Oilers are to us?

GioforPM · 07-13-2022, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fischy13

I’m 100%,with you on this. My thought is, growing up a Flyers fan, you hate NJD. Like us becoming NHL’ers and signing with Edmonton. You take a minor haircut to not have to play for a team you hate so much. Glencross did it, he was an Alberta boy. Only after Edmonton upset him and didn’t offer him a deal when they chased Vanek. Out of spite, he signed in Calgary and it worked out for him.

Flyers fans dislike NJ, but they hate the Pens, Rangers and Caps more. This is more like a Flames fan signing in Winnipeg.

I don’t think this comes into it at all actually. Players are pretty rational about other teams.

Erick Estrada · 07-13-2022, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Random

I'm coming around to the view that he really only wanted to play in Philly, and didn't find out that was impossible until he had already burned his bridges here. So he panicked and took the next plausible offer he could get.

Maybe but I don't know if an agent would advise a client to take an offer out of panic. Maybe one day we will find out exactly what went down in the last 24-48 hours but I doubt any light will be shined on this today as it's all just speculation and people scratching their heads.

djsFlames · 07-13-2022, 06:32 PM

Progression of the last 24 hours:

Enoch Root · 07-13-2022, 06:33 PM

People can do whatever they want, I am fine with that. You do you.

But watching him sign for less money and a worse team, and a nothing destination leaves me thinking bu-buy. I won't boo him, but no ovation, no Gaudreau night, nothing.

Just go.

DoubleK · 07-13-2022, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Since we are making stuff up. My made up scenario is that he wanted it to be Philly.
Philly perhaps communicated to him that they could clear the room required to make him the offer he needed.

The only flaw in that is I can't figure out what happened to NJD.

Others have mentioned this earlier but if this is the truth, then why not sign a tradeable contract with a tight NTC clause with only Philly (and NJD) on it?

That would buy Philly time to clear the cap space and get him to his ultimate destination.

activeStick · 07-13-2022, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by looooob

it was joked about at the time, but watch it be Craig Freaking Conroy

Connie just won't shut up!!

TorqueDog · 07-13-2022, 06:34 PM

Clearly this is due to Johnny's wife being pregnant.

Mrs. G: "I have a craving..."
JG: "Yes fine, pickles and ice cream, I'll g-..."
Mrs. G: "... to live in Ohio."

Flamesfan05 · 07-13-2022, 06:34 PM

This is hilarious

https://twitter.com/nickadamsinusa/s...BR01BDqxiU75EA

Cleveland Steam Whistle · 07-13-2022, 06:34 PM

And if there is anything to the one person in the org thing that prevented him from signing. It would have to be a massive values transgression type of thing for me to think the club should have done anything about it.

If it’s just Tre was tough in the last negotiation (imo no chance) or he didn’t like Sutter, then I say it was time for Johnny to move on. Btw I don’t think there’s likely anything too that speculation.