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Old 07-13-2022, 04:13 PM   #181
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You seem to have plenty of time for your instant doom and gloom, don’t see why you’re desperate to get ahead of yourself. Or you didn’t read.
What is so doom and gloom about what I said genius
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:14 PM   #182
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If you want a superstar via UFA, that’s what it costs.

When Chara signed with the Bruins, he got $7.5M of a $50.3M cap, or 14.9% of the cap.

Panarin’s $11.6M of the 2019 cap of $81.5M is 14.2% of the cap.

It’s the price of poker.

8x$11.7M, deliberately giving him a higher AAV than Panarin, with the extra year, to finish his career with the team who gave him his shot.

Just like Eichel, they had to make an offer the other side couldn’t refuse.

They didn’t. They made an offer that was apparently quite easy to refuse.

So Eichel is a Golden Knight, and Gaudreau is potentially a… Blue Jacket.

But neither are Flames.
How's that going anyway?
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:15 PM   #183
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Why are people so concerned about flights? Johnny will have the money to fly private and his family won’t be sitting in the lounge for hours. I’d always assumed this was purely about living practically next door, not about shaving an hour or two off a monthly flight.
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:16 PM   #185
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Panarin got his contract before there was such a thing as COVID, when the players didn't owe the owners a billion dollars, and the prospects looked good for the cap to keep going steadily up.

Now we're dealing with a flat cap for two to three more years.

Somebody clearly doesn't know how pro sports contracts work, beginning with the part where you have to have money to spend money.
So is that why the Blue Jackets are offering him $500k less than McDavid?

Stars don’t take discounts. Cry poor to Michael Stone when you bring him back for another year at $725k. You either have Johnny Gaudreau or you don’t. It costs to keep him. If you’re not willing to pay, fine.

Make the appropriate moves that are best for the franchise.

Don’t do this.
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:17 PM   #186
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How's that going anyway?
They’ve got 4 more years to get it right.

What do we have?
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:17 PM   #187
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Why are people so concerned about flights? Johnny will have the money to fly private and his family won’t be sitting in the lounge for hours. I’d always assumed this was purely about living practically next door, not about shaving an hour or two off a monthly flight.
Right. I assumed it was "Mom, can you come over and look after the baby for an hour". Not "Let's get together for this weekend when I'm not on the road".
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:18 PM   #188
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That’s completely counter to everything we’ve heard.
What have we heard?

$84M/8 furthest from home
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$84M/7 much closer to home
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Leaving hockey aside (and there is actually a strong argument that CBJ has a brighter future), why would it be wrong for him to take the middle option?
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So it’s not the family?
Has he accepted the offer already?

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Old 07-13-2022, 04:18 PM   #190
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That's the rumour.

The fact is, we don't know if this rumour is accurate, we don't know what the Flames' last offer was, we don't know how high they would have gone if Gaudreau hadn't simply broken off the negotiations, we don't know what Gaudreau is eventually going to sign for, and we certainly don't know that he is going to take the highest dollar offer no matter where it comes from.

We do know that Panarin is a poor comparable for any contract being signed now, because the circumstances have changed for the whole league.
Well we know that there have been other contracts that have been signed for big dollars since COVID (Nurse, Barkov, Werenski, Kaprizov, Point, Hamilton) The change in circumstances do not seem to have affected those contracts.
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:19 PM   #191
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No one is hiring a private jet every other day for their MIL. No matter how rich they are. And you still add travel time to and from the terminal. You are still taking 6 hours to get to Columbus and back.
No one said every other day, but even once a week would probably be about $10-20K per month which isn't exactly a budget breaker when you have $120 million in career earnings.
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What have we heard?

$84M/8 furthest from home
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$84M/7 much closer to home
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$??M/7 closest to home


Leaving hockey aside (and there is actually a strong argument that CBJ has a brighter future), why would it be wrong for him to take the middle option?
He should take whatever offer he wants.

My only point of curiosity is what the nhlpa/agents guild will think of it IF he takes a big apparent discount to make this move.
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:20 PM   #193
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They’ve got 4 more years to get it right.

What do we have?
No $10M pouty player with a reconstructed neck who is only a PPG guy.

And Calgary didn't have the assets to match Vegas anyway. No Tuch, no Krebs, both of whom were very much desired by Buffalo.
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So is that why the Blue Jackets are offering him $500k less than McDavid?
According to rumour. You're acting like this is not only a fact, but that it is guaranteed Gaudreau will sign there.

You also assume he is motivated solely by money and will automatically sign with whichever team offers the highest AAV.
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I would buy a private jet and hire a pilot. Have it making money for me when I'm not working and available when I need it. Hondajet specifically.
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No one said every other day, but even once a week would probably be about $10-20K per month which isn't exactly a budget breaker when you have $120 million in career earnings.
Once a week isn't what people were thinking as "close to home". It sounds like rationalization to me.
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No one said every other day, but even once a week would probably be about $10-20K per month which isn't exactly a budget breaker when you have $120 million in career earnings.
A private jet rental is not the same price as a business class seat.
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He should take whatever offer he wants.

My only point of curiosity is what the nhlpa/agents guild will think of it IF he takes a big apparent discount to make this move.
Not a huge deal anymore. Back when you had stars players having to have second jobs while the owners were making bank it was obviously important to have a unified front with the likes of Lindsay and friends.

Now though with 50% revenue split, the less Gaudreau signs for the more for everyone else. Only the top tier players who want to use his contract as a negotiation tactic (and therefore take money off lower level players) will care.
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Well we know that there have been other contracts that have been signed for big dollars since COVID (Nurse, Barkov, Werenski, Kaprizov, Point, Hamilton) The change in circumstances do not seem to have affected those contracts.
The rumoured offer was higher than any of those though.
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