2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Every team starts a rebuild by accident that was the Oilers 2006-2010. But really once they were bad in that 09-10 season and drafted Hall they leaned into the re-build.

We made fun of them for 4 seasons for tanking on purpose to get 1st overall picks in that stretch.

Made fun of how they were so excited to draft 1st overall, had lottery parties, and draft parties.

Made fun of their Oil Change documentary following around their fancy new young top picks.

But no they didn't embrace the re-build at all

I tend to agree but let’s remember they ended up with f all to show for any of it. It got them nowhere. There’s no model there to follow at all.

The Oilers are Cousin Eddie who won lotto-max. They were and are no good.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

We should have a poll up on what each person wants:

1) tank and rebuild
2) remain competitive

I'm in the latter, I'm tired of rebuilding with this team over and over again, even my wife makes fun of me always saying the Flames are still rebuilding.

Which multiverse are you from where the Flames rebuild?

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

I tend to agree but let’s remember they ended up with f all to show for any of it. It got them nowhere. There’s no model there to follow at all.

The Oilers are Cousin Eddie who won lotto-max. They were and are no good.

They aren't no good right now. They're behind Colorado, but it's getting closer. They're as formidable as any team in the West.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

They aren't no good right now. They're behind Colorado, but it's getting closer. They're as formidable as any team in the West.

Maybe you will get a Draisaitl jersey from Santa for Christmas

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

There's no denying the luck for McDavid. Picking a Norris trophy-winning defenceman in the 3rd round is equally as lucky, otherwise he doesn't go in the 3rd round.

That's not the point

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, but they won't trade Tkachuk if he will sign long term and you have already decided he won't.

After yesterday, it would seem negligent to not go to Tkachuk and say something to the effect of “do you want to be here? If you don’t, that’s fine. Give us 5 teams you’d extend with for 8 years, and you’ll be on one of them by camp. If you tell us you want to be here and haven’t signed by September 1, that will be taken as a trade demand, and we will take the best offer we can get.”

[Poe969]

Have they started to sell yet?

[FanIn80]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547294279831257094

I say bring him back. I don't even care what the contract is.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Typical Flames to not take advantage of selling vets after career years and not time a rebuild around one of the best and deepest drafts in the last 10 years.

How many teams actually have done that? Is this ‘typical Flames’, or just typical NHL?

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Have they started to sell yet?

Selling #13 jerseys at a discount, they are practically letting them walk out the door!!

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

After yesterday, it would seem negligent to not go to Tkachuk and say something to the effect of “do you want to be here? If you don’t, that’s fine. Give us 5 teams you’d extend with for 8 years, and you’ll be on one of them by camp. If you tell us you want to be here and haven’t signed by September 1, that will be taken as a trade demand, and we will take the best offer we can get.”

The sinking feeling I have is that he wants to go to the UFA market and let teams bid war for his services. Same with Mangiapane.

[Always Earned Never Given]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I believe NJ targeted Tkachuk because at the point in the draft, I feel both parties were signaling a signing in Calgary for JG. However that didn't happen and life goes on.

Tkachuk would bring huge value to any US market. He stirs the pot and puts butts in seats. the way hockey is marketed in Canada is way different then how its sold in the US. Just look at arena atmospheres in Dallas, Colorado and Carolina.

What if JG does sign with the Devils, do they try to trade for Chucky?

if so, Devils have 3 young centers and their 2023 1st round pick. Is there any way both teams can make something work?

Mercer + 2023 1st round for Thachuk? or something along those lines?

or if Nico does not want to give #13 jersey to Johnny, they ship him to Calgary!

[Icon]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Selling #13 jerseys at a discount, they are practically letting them walk out the door!!

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Maybe you will get a Draisaitl jersey from Santa for Christmas

Or maybe we can still hate our rivals but not let it objectively blind us.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547294279831257094

I say bring him back. I don't even care what the contract is.

Can't be slower than Lucic, could he?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The sinking feeling I have is that he wants to go to the UFA market and let teams bid war for his services. Same with Mangiapane.

Then #### em. Pack your ####.

Scorched earth time, mother####ers.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

After yesterday, it would seem negligent to not go to Tkachuk and say something to the effect of “do you want to be here? If you don’t, that’s fine. Give us 5 teams you’d extend with for 8 years, and you’ll be on one of them by camp. If you tell us you want to be here and haven’t signed by September 1, that will be taken as a trade demand, and we will take the best offer we can get.”

He might extend on one of those 5 teams, but it would depend on the price.

I expect he'll want to go UFA anyway, unless someone overpays badly in advance.

Playing hardball with Tkachuk will not get you anywhere. He has all of the leverage.

Don't go into a gunfight with a jack knife.

[flamesgod]

Sign Klingberg. Move Tkachuk for some good pieces, then pillage Vegas. That’s my hope.

[Mr.Coffee]

they need to build a coherent strategy.

And since that coherent strategy will inevitably be to blow it up, they need to blow it up.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547307975479795712


Reclamation projects like Steel on low term and money, I'd have no problem with