2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by fleury

Palat is great but what does that do to sign him to a 6 or 7 year deal? We’re not close to the core of Colorado or Tampa. And it’s too early to say he should be part of the rebuild going forward. We have to build through a core and then adding pieces. The core, I would argue, has to be brought in through smart drafting. Then you add pieces to build around them. The time horizon has to be 4 to 5 years down the road. Kicking the can further prolongs the agony.

And he's 31 years old.

[kobasew19]

We should have a poll up on what each person wants:

1) tank and rebuild
2) remain competitive

I'm in the latter, I'm tired of rebuilding with this team over and over again, even my wife makes fun of me always saying the Flames are still rebuilding.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

I'm tired of rebuilding with this team over and over again, even my wife makes fun of me always saying the Flames are still rebuilding.

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[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

We should have a poll up on what each person wants:

1) tank and rebuild
2) remain competitive

I'm in the latter, I'm tired of rebuilding with this team over and over again, even my wife makes fun of me always saying the Flames are still rebuilding.

We’ve been rebuilding over and over again?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The embraced the rebuild through the Hall, RNH, Yakupov drafts for sure.

Then yeah ended up trying to start to be good, still sucked, and got McDavid and Draisaitl.

Still started with embracing the initial suck though.

Revisionist history...they embraced nothing they just sucked

[calf]

We should sign Joe Thornton

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, but they won't trade Tkachuk if he will sign long term and you have already decided he won't.

I mean I cant confirm that he will but What I've herd is he was looking at a 4-5 year deal at big money in Calgary to cash in on another pay day south of the boarder but with Johnny moving on his team is leaning towards taking his huge season this year and parlaying it into a big long term deal in the US.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

We should have a poll up on what each person wants:

1) tank and rebuild
2) remain competitive

I'm in the latter, I'm tired of rebuilding with this team over and over again, even my wife makes fun of me always saying the Flames are still rebuilding.

There is a lot of real estate in the middle where a team is neither competitive nor tanking. That is the area that no one wants to be. Unfortunately, I think trying to remain competitive at this point lands us in that middle area and prevents contention longer than a rebuild. Neither is a guarantee for anything of course.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I mean I cant confirm that he will but What I've herd is he was looking at a 4-5 year deal at big money in Calgary to cash in on another pay day south of the boarder but with Johnny moving on his team is leaning towards taking his huge season this year and parlaying it into a big long term deal in the US.

You mean the little hit on the radio this morning? Arguably he can get more money from the Flames now.

[mile]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

We should have a poll up on what each person wants:

1) tank and rebuild
2) remain competitive

I'm in the latter, I'm tired of rebuilding with this team over and over again, even my wife makes fun of me always saying the Flames are still rebuilding.

If they are rebuilding, then Sutter has to go too. Or at least move him to an advisor role. I don't know if he is going anywhere though.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by calf

We should sign Joe Thornton

Great career and a great guy but absolutely nothing left in the tank lol.

[howard_the_duck]

Yea, Sutter is the coach, and we all love him. But his being here for one more season cannot dictate the direction of the franchise.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Revisionist history...they embraced nothing they just sucked

Every team starts a rebuild by accident that was the Oilers 2006-2010. But really once they were bad in that 09-10 season and drafted Hall they leaned into the re-build.

We made fun of them for 4 seasons for tanking on purpose to get 1st overall picks in that stretch.

Made fun of how they were so excited to draft 1st overall, had lottery parties, and draft parties.

Made fun of their Oil Change documentary following around their fancy new young top picks.

But no they didn't embrace the re-build at all

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

You mean the little hit on the radio this morning? Arguably he can get more money from the Flames now.

Sure I don't listen to the fan960 personally as I feel its just absolute trash beside Pat Steinberg. Maybe they hear the same things. Don't shoot the messenger.

Could he get more money from the flames now via 8 year deal sure, I don't buy it that he would sign it. I think 8 year deal anywhere is going to be big money but if he wont sign 8 in Calgary then you might as well trade him while his value is high and both parties are happy.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Great career and a great guy but absolutely nothing left in the tank lol.

Nice beard

[Roof-Daddy]

The oilers get zero credit for landing McDavid. That was luckiest of all the luckiest things I think I've ever seen.

That steaming pile of garbage sucked so bad for so many years finishing dead last and hording 1st overalls, that the league got sick of it and lowered the odds of last place getting the 1st overall pick.

Lo and behold that burning pile of dog #### that calls itself a hockey franchise manages to suck a tiny bit less that exact season and finish a few spots higher on the standings. And because of the increased odds they then got because the league changed them (because of THEM) they won the goddamn lottery again.


Meanwhile, the Flames draft a 22 year old Norris winner in the 3rd round and he never plays a game for us.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Sure I don't listen to the fan960 personally as I feel its just absolute trash beside Pat Steinberg. Maybe they hear the same things. Don't shoot the messenger.

Could he get more money from the flames now via 8 year deal sure, I don't buy it that he would sign it. I think 8 year deal anywhere is going to be big money but if he wont sign 8 in Calgary then you might as well trade him while his value is high and both parties are happy.

Yeah, that is the real dagger Gaudreau's timing did. I totally buy the Devils were offering the 2nd overall for Tkachuk. Tkachuk would be the guy here though and he seems to have the personality to be into that.

We'll see. Will be a crappy return if he goes the QO route.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The oilers get zero credit for landing McDavid. That was luckiest of all the luckiest things I think I've ever seen.

That steaming pile of garbage sucked so bad for so many years finishing dead last and hording 1st overalls, that the league got sick of it and lowered the odds of last place getting the 1st overall pick.

Lo and behold that burning pile of dog #### that calls itself a hockey franchise manages to suck a tiny bit less that exact season and finish a few spots higher on the standings. And because of the increased odds they then got because the league changed them (because of THEM) they won the goddamn lottery again.


Meanwhile, the Flames draft a 22 year old Norris winner in the 3rd round and he never plays a game for us.

There's no denying the luck for McDavid. Picking a Norris trophy-winning defenceman in the 3rd round is equally as lucky, otherwise he doesn't go in the 3rd round.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, that is the real dagger Gaudreau's timing did. I totally buy the Devils were offering the 2nd overall for Tkachuk. Tkachuk would be the guy here though and he seems to have the personality to be into that.

We'll see. Will be a crappy return if he goes the QO route.

I believe NJ targeted Tkachuk because at the point in the draft, I feel both parties were signaling a signing in Calgary for JG. However that didn't happen and life goes on.

Tkachuk would bring huge value to any US market. He stirs the pot and puts butts in seats. the way hockey is marketed in Canada is way different then how its sold in the US. Just look at arena atmospheres in Dallas, Colorado and Carolina.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

There's no denying the luck for McDavid. Picking a Norris trophy-winning defenceman in the 3rd round is equally as lucky, otherwise he doesn't go in the 3rd round.

Picking Fox was a swing at a high ceiling talent who had a huge question mark. And so was the Gaudreau pick for that matter.