Seravalli: Gaudreau has informed the Flames he will not return

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I don't do the twitter, but if it's this embarrassing here I can't imagine what that cesspool is like.

Some of you people are such butthurt losers. Get a grip.

It sucks that he left, and it sucks that it took him to the last day to decide, but get over it, it's just sports and he was well within his rights.

It's fine to hope he doesn't ever make the playoffs again with his new team and stuff like that, but leave his ####ing family alone with your idiotic comments.

Who's attacking his family?

For me at least, I was discussing his character.

I love the Gaudreaus. I'm not a big fan of the way he went about this.

At the same time, my attitude now is that it is what it is.

People who are villifying every take that seems remotely offside on the political correctness spectrum are the ones making the thread look like a dramatic circus lol.

Shades of blonde crying at the cat.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

The type of comments being exhibited in this thread are, IMO, an example of why players (including Canadians) increasingly don’t want to play in Canadian markets.

This in addition to how folks talked about Monahan are not a very welcoming look.

[StoneCole]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Please tell me you don't have a wife and kids.

I bet your kids have bumfaces too...

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by StoneCole

I bet your kids have bumfaces too...

And that's the bottom line cause StoneCole said so!

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Who's attacking his family?

For me at least, I was discussing his character.

I love the Gaudreaus. I'm not a big fan of the way he went about this.

At the same time, my attitude now is that it is what it is.

People who are villifying every take that seems remotely offside on the political correctness spectrum are the ones making the thread look like a dramatic circus lol.

Shades of blonde crying at the cat.

This has nothing to do with political correctness.

Has to do with your definition of what a "man' is and what you think should by prioritized by somebody making a decision like this.

That's what people are saying is embarrassing.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Locke

So...

Regehr, Jagr and now Gaudreau.

Once I get their jersey they are off the team within 6 months. There are serial killers without a resume that solid!

So if I go out today and get a Tkachuk jersey we can be confident he will be off the team by the Trade Deadline....

You should really show management some love and get a Treliving jersey.

[Gaskal]

He's got a baby on the way. I am not a father myself or anything but I am guessing he realizes that everything he does is now for the sake of the little one. Nothing non-manly about that IMO.

Lol my girlfriend even said, women think its hella manly when a dude shows utter dedication to his offspring and wife.

[Five-hole]

This thread doesn't need any more hot takes, but I think the fact he took until the deadline to make up his mind is actually reflective of how much he did want to stay. Him going home was always a possibility with him. If he had no desire to stay I suspect he would have told Tre that long ago.

It's obviously a terrible outcome for the team in that it's the worst of both worlds, but I don't think we need to be doom and gloom about the city or organization being a place players want to play. It is, and will never be, a New York, LA, Florida, or Vancouver, but it is far from a Buffalo or Winnipeg.

[wretched34]

As a Flames fan, I am sad.
As a Gaudreau fan, I am happy for him.
Not everyone has the opportunity to have a career they love, that affords them the ability to pick and choose where they get to live and raise their families. Johnny chose to go back home, to raise his new family surrounded by the rest of his family, which he's clearly very close with.
People talking about how it was stupid of him to pass up more money or more term, just to stay where they want him too, it's silly.
The guy will earn over $100 million dollars before he turns 36. He and his family are gonna be okay financially.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

The type of comments being exhibited in this thread are, IMO, an example of why players (including Canadians) increasingly don’t want to play in Canadian markets.

Players don't want to play in Canadian markets because they don't like cold, small, heavily taxed cities. Not because of mean comments. Have you met an east coast hockey fan? They're crazy and much more mean than Canadian fans. My friend lives in NYC and can't wear his Flames jersey to any of the games when the team is in town because of how stupid people there are.

Anyway people suggesting family or wife influence are wrong. Johnny never really wanted to be here. Yeah sure I think he liked Calgary more than he thought he would and I'm sure he has a softspot for the city but his heart was always back home. Tonnes of examples of that, it was clear from Day 1. Might be tough for people to hear but this wasn't nefarious people whispering in his ear, johnny made the decision on his own. The Flames were his safety school/side chick during this whole process, time to accept it and move on. I'm personally excited for a rebuild where we can acquire some high end corn fed Western Canadian studs like me that actually wanna be here!

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

This has nothing to do with political correctness.

Has to do with your definition of what a "man' is and what you think should by prioritized by somebody making a decision like this.

That's what people are saying is embarrassing.

Wait so I can't have a different definition of how a man should carry himself than you?

That's not allowed? Darn. News to me.

So you don't agree. Fine. But blowing your top over it doesn't look great. Another aspect of being a strong man in his center (imo) is not getting perturbed over people not seeing things the way you do.

I just had an opinion. I don't have all the information either. Its based on just reading between the lines, but I could be wrong about how it unfolded too. I didn't attack you though, and you behave as if I did.

Might want to work on your reactivity.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Or it could be that he wanted to go home to the east coast but also wanted to maximize the contract amount from whoever signed him. So he and his agent dragged the process out to squeeze the highest possible offer from the Flames in hopes of parlaying that into more money from the bidding teams out east.

If it came down to money, Johnny would not have informed the Treliving that we’re out. He’d be using us currently as leverage to increase his demand and the offers. I don’t think money has anything to do with his decision at this very moment. He’s going to get paid regardless as an already very wealthy millionaire.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

Players don't want to play in Canadian markets because they don't like cold, small, heavily taxed cities. Not because of mean comments. Have you met an east coast hockey fan? They're crazy and much more mean than Canadian fans. My friend lives in NYC and can't wear his Flames jersey to any of the games when the team is in town because of how stupid people there are.

Anyway people suggesting family or wife influence are wrong. Johnny never really wanted to be here. Yeah sure I think he liked Calgary more than he thought he would and I'm sure he has a softspot for the city but his heart was always back home. Tonnes of examples of that, it was clear from Day 1. Might be tough for people to hear but this wasn't nefarious people whispering in his ear, johnny made the decision on his own. The Flames were his safety school/side chick during this whole process, time to accept it and move on. I'm personally excited for a rebuild where we can acquire some high end corn fed Western Canadian studs like me that actually wanna be here!

This fallacy has to go away. Anywhere in NY, NJ, Cali, Penn are taxed more heavily than anywhere in Alberta. I'll give you the cold winter and small locations but quit with the tax stuff.

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I don't do the twitter, but if it's this embarrassing here I can't imagine what that cesspool is like.

Some of you people are such butthurt losers. Get a grip.

It sucks that he left, and it sucks that it took him to the last day to decide, but get over it, it's just sports and he was well within his rights.

It's fine to hope he doesn't ever make the playoffs again with his new team and stuff like that, but leave his ####ing family alone with your idiotic comments.

Yep. I'm going to wholeheartedly boo Gaudreau for the rest of his hockey career, but it ends there. I have no interest in his personal life whatsoever, and just don't need to know about it or speculate about it. He's a hockey player to me, full stop. The normal human being part is his own business.

[dino7c]

Lol if you think Gaudreau will never get a mean comment in Philly or NY

Just wait until he has a down year at that salary in those markets

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Wait so I can't have a different definition of how a man should carry himself than you?

That's not allowed? Darn. News to me.

So you don't agree. Fine. But blowing your top over it doesn't look great. Another aspect of being a strong man in his center (imo) is not getting perturbed over people not seeing things the way you do.

I just had an opinion. I don't have all the information either. Its based on just reading between the lines, but I could be wrong about how it unfolded too. I didn't attack you though, and you behave as if I did.

Might want to work on your reactivity.

You're allowed to have different definitions and opinions about manliness, yours just happen to be terrible

[StoneCole]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

The type of comments being exhibited in this thread are, IMO, an example of why players (including Canadians) increasingly don’t want to play in Canadian markets.

Philly fans are so progressive and welcoming and would never slander a player who left.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

You're allowed to have different definitions and opinions about manliness, yours just happen to be terrible

Spoken like an approval seeker.

Thats fair, agree to disagree.

[The Yen Man]

At the end of the day, people are going believe what they want to believe about Johnny's character. We're not part of his inner circle, we don't know how he thinks.

But I choose to believe he truly was conflicted about staying or going down the the last minute. He most likely tried his hardest to make it work with his family should he choose to stay in Calgary, but ultimately, chose a situation that worked best for them all. There's no shame in that, and I have nothing but respect for him. Yah, it sucks as a Flames fan, but at the end of the day, it's jus sports. No need to launch into personal attacks on him or his family's character IMO.

[pylon]

I don't blame Johnny one bit. I have been in the exact opposite situation, although the money wasn't on the same scale, it was still a very substantial amount.

Some people need to get a grip here.

I was offered a move/promotion that would have netted me a very substantial raise in the 6 figures, and I turned it down because I didn't want to be 2000 kms from my ageing folks, and I didn't want to move my wife away from her family. Plus my dad had a major heart surgery last year at 80 and I know, he values the time we get to spend together.... as there may not be much more.

You hit a certain point, where you are making a level of income, that even a very large increase does not become the determining factor. And when we are talking money that's in the 10's of millions? What's another 10 million, when you are already guaranteed 90 to be where you truly want to be?

Arguably, another 100k/yr or so to me, would have a far bigger impact than 10 million would have to a multimillionaire. But I love my parents far more than a bigger boat, and a fancier car.

It's the opposite, but still the same motivation.

People need to accept this, respect this, and be grateful for the years he gave us. He did what was right, and important to him. It's too bad peoples feelings are hurt, but in the end, we are talking about a childs game, played by men. To quote Seinfeld "We're cheering for clothes."