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Old 07-12-2022, 06:54 PM   #281
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Oh this should be a treat
Let the excuses roll. To be fair it feels like Johnny duped him. If he had legitimately wanted to come back 10 x 8 should have got it done.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:54 PM   #282
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could have had that 2nd overall for Tkachuk flames gonna flame
I think they should have done that move regardless of what happened to Gaudreau
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:54 PM   #283
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I think you're right. I think he gets the big contract and the captaincy to go with it. Flames aren't rebuilding
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I’ll eat my hat it Tkachuk signs a long term deal now.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:54 PM   #284
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:55 PM   #285
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Not trading him and Chucky when we had the chance will go down as a far bigger setback for this franchise than the Iggy/Regehr/Kipper situations.

The fact ownership ever let Tre start the season without a clear message to both agents that the Flames would not be left with nothing is a monumental failure.
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Gaudreau was willing to re-sign last off-season at $9 million x 8 years.

The Flames were not.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:55 PM   #287
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Blow the whole #### up. Get some assets, compete with Chicago…. For last place.

UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DO NOT SIGN MATTHEW FOR A LONG TERM DEAL OR CAPTAINCY. HE IS OVERRATED, SLOW AND ONLY A 70PT PLAYER. TRADE HIM FOR THE BEST PACKAGE.
Agree about the Tkachuk description.

It’ll be very interesting to see how this plays out.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:56 PM   #288
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The flames are going to pay Tkachuk now for sure, he will have a borderline blank cheque. It's a give us your number or get traded conversation, they can not repeat this dumb$&*^#$ry and let another all star walk for nothing.
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FFS - I think Flames need to consider blowing it up and go for the Bedard sweepstakes. Deep draft - rebuild now while they can.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:56 PM   #290
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Let the excuses roll. To be fair it feels like Johnny duped him. If he had legitimately wanted to come back 10 x 8 should have got it done.
I suspect the GM will say this was not about money and they offered a really competitive contract.... or something like that
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This will at least make free agency day interesting??
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:57 PM   #293
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Gaudreau was willing to re-sign last off-season at $9 million x 8 years.

The Flames were not.
Wasn’t the right time to sign Johnny I guess.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:57 PM   #294
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I said i suspect he will be signed long term in the next few days which eliminates the QO and walking next year stuff.

If he doesnt sign i suspect he is traded before season start.
And I, among others, believe he will sign his QA and walk. There are other perspectives other than your own.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:57 PM   #295
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FFS - I think Flames need to consider blowing it up and go for the Bedard sweepstakes. Deep draft - rebuild now while they can.
You know for damn sure they'd tank, finish last and lose the lottery draw
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Treliving going all-in on this season.

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I suspect the GM will say this was not about money and they offered a really competitive contract.... or something like that
Which seems to be exactly what happened. And if it was not about money and Johnny just wanted to be closer to home, he should have disclosed that much earlier than 6 hours away from the deadline. There was no need for that decision to be made in the last few hours. Really hooped the team.

I was prepared to be in the fire treliving camp but the way this played out am more angry at Johnny.
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I hope that Flames fans are graceful enough to not burn his jersey...
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is the Tre presser being streamed? I want to hear about the "process"
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Very strange result. This is the only scenario that hurts Johnny’s legacy. Why wait until so close to the deadline, I think Flames fans have a right to be upset at that? Will be interesting to hear what BT has to say, as the only way this makes sense in my head (especially from what I had heard from a reliable source about the counter offer from Johnny, which Pat Steinberg spoke about today seemingly confirming that a counter was in fact made from 13s side) is if the Flames wouldn’t meet Johnny’s ask. Would the Flames have really walked away from the table here, because that was my worry when I heard the rumour the Edwards was involved.

Maybe this is still posturing as one last push to get flames to Johnny’s number…. Seems like a long shot, but this whole scenario really stings.
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