Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[Coach]

Kinda thought this would be dealt with either way by the time I got home today.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

https://twitter.com/user/status/1546955394286862336

I dont get it, if he wanted $72 million dollars, the Flames would almost assuredly have offered him that. There would have to be another reason.

[dino7c]

Lol that's the tweet? It's some rando

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

If he would accept 10.2 x 7 he would already be signed here.

No, if he accepts 10.2 x 7 that means he was never going to sign here.

We can offer him the most money by far. This decision isn’t about money.

I have a feeling Johnny would happily stay here but is under significant pressure from his family to come back east, which is totally fair. This is a life decision and he’s going to do what’s best for his family.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Haven’t been able to keep up for a few hours…where we at?

Excited? Terrified? Sea sick?

Horribly depressed.

I can't believe it has come to this.

Calgary is Columbus 2.0

[GullFoss]

LeBrun apparently said flames could trade his rights to front runner if they get firm no from Johnny. Seems like time for that is running short.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

There's a tweet out there from someone who accurately reported the Hamilton signing last year, saying that Gaudreau has already agreed to a $10.2M X 7 year deal with New Jersey. With the tweet being so specific, I wonder if it can be used as evidence of tampering.

Do we know that this guy actually tipped the Hamilton signing besides that he said he did.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Do we know that this guy actually tipped the Hamilton signing besides that he said he did.

Yeah, he has some tweets from back then

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont get it, if he wanted $72 million dollars, the Flames would almost assuredly have offered him that. There would have to be another reason.

It likely is not about what he wants but where he wants to be

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Couldn't find your earlier post, but it seems entierly plausible that Johnny being removed from the top line, with someone with far less skill put in that top line winger position, would cause Chucky's and Lindy's production to drop by a significant amount. So it's not just the loss of Johnny's points that need to be taken into account, it's the drop in the entire line's production that needs to be looked at.

Yes. And that is all factored into the numbers. Historically speaking this is how it works, largely because hockey is such a team game. I have no doubt that the Flames will experience a drop in scoring, but they were one of the highest scoring teams in the league. In the worst cases this has tended to result I'm around a 25% loss in overall production, but most often is much closer to 10%.

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[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont get it, if he wanted $72 million dollars, the Flames would almost assuredly have offered him that. There would have to be another reason.

If that's the offer he signs, then it was never about the money. Perhaps his pregnant wife wasn't sure about taking care of a newborn thousands of miles away from family and friends if her husband is unable to help most of the time for 9 months of the year. In NJ, they are both much closer to family and friends, and that can make the job a lot easier.

[taxbuster]

It's curious to me that *anyone* believes some rando on Twitter when not one actual professional in sports or sports media has any info at all.

Bizarre.

Patiently tapping F5 here and Twitter. Don't expect news until 9:57 MT.

[Strange Brew]

The insiderrrr strikes

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont get it, if he wanted $72 million dollars, the Flames would almost assuredly have offered him that. There would have to be another reason.

Well a pregnant wife and her desire to be close to family will do that.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Couldn't find your earlier post, but it seems entierly plausible that Johnny being removed from the top line, with someone with far less skill put in that top line winger position, would cause Chucky's and Lindy's production to drop by a significant amount. So it's not just the loss of Johnny's points that need to be taken into account, it's the drop in the entire line's production that needs to be looked at.

Johnny's contribution to his line's production is already measured. It's a thing called assists.

I would expect a math god to have taken this into account.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

LeBrun apparently said flames could trade his rights to front runner if they get firm no from Johnny. Seems like time for that is running short.

Why would anyone trade for his rights at this point?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Yeah, he has some tweets from back then

Tweets from when it was heavily rumored already

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lol that's the tweet? It's some rando

On behalf of randos everywhere, I resent that remark.

I personally believe that tweet was made by a doofus.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Horribly depressed.

I can't believe it has come to this.

Calgary is Columbus 2.0

Well if we do lose him hopefully we try to sign guys earlier on in the process. Calgary is similar to a Columbus in that it is not a destination that most players are clamouring to go to. Need to be a little more strategic in the future.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lol that's the tweet? It's some rando

Yep. I wouldn't give it much credence either. He did tweet out the Hamilton signing details correctly on July 27 last year, one day before it was announced, but it's not much to go on in terms of assurance that he's got info on this situation.