The Ongoing Dog Attack Mega-Thread

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Can we take this a level up, and admit that pet ownership is kind of ####ed up? We breed these things, so that we can chop off their sex organs and keep them against their will, parade them around with a rope on their neck telling them where to go, and then throw them in a cage for a couple weeks so we can go on vacation.

Oh, then we kill a while bunch of other animals to feed these ones. What an inhumane environmental disaster the whole thing is.

I grew up with pets and love animals. I'll keep adopting pets to try and spare some from getting warehoused in cages then murdered because they peed too much or weren't cute enough. I just wish pets didn't exist to adopt.

We are long past that point of return. They are domesticated animals and the reality is that the majority of them live a very good life as you only hear about the bad stories on the news while millions of pets are very well taken care of. This is a spec of dust on the radar of inhumane things our race does to animals.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Can we take this a level up, and admit that pet ownership is kind of ####ed up? We breed these things, so that we can chop off their sex organs and keep them against their will, parade them around with a rope on their neck telling them where to go, and then throw them in a cage for a couple weeks so we can go on vacation.

Oh, then we kill a while bunch of other animals to feed these ones. What an inhumane environmental disaster the whole thing is.

I grew up with pets and love animals. I'll keep adopting pets to try and spare some from getting warehoused in cages then murdered because they peed too much or weren't cute enough. I just wish pets didn't exist to adopt.

Your position is that on aggregate pets would have a better existence by not existing?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GGG

Your position is that on aggregate pets would have a better existence by not existing?

That’s a pretty philosophical question, but without going into that you have to admit pet ownership is kind of insane.

Like there are probably a handful of culturally accepted practices in western culture that, if viewed objectively against other cultural practices or moral stance, seem totally insane and out of sync, and pet ownership is one of them.

People go around picking up their dog’s poop with their hands and are fine with thousands of nameless animals getting slaughtered/put down for our pleasure but find any suggestion that we humanely destroy a bunch of dogs off putting.

Kind of fascinating anyway.

[The Yen Man]

Pretty much. People trap and kill rodents like mice and voles, or run over a bunny or a gopher without batting an eye, but if it's a dog or cat that's being euthanized, all of a sudden they're up in arms. So basically they've put certain types of animals above another based on personal preference.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Pretty much. People trap and kill rodents like mice and voles, or run over a bunny or a gopher without batting an eye, but if it's a dog or cat that's being euthanized, all of a sudden they're up in arms. So basically they've put certain types of animals above another based on personal preference.

…. Yeah. Is that a shocking revelation?

“Ever swatted a fly!?”

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s a pretty philosophical question, but without going into that you have to admit pet ownership is kind of insane.

Like there are probably a handful of culturally accepted practices in western culture that, if viewed objectively against other cultural practices or moral stance, seem totally insane and out of sync, and pet ownership is one of them.

People go around picking up their dog’s poop with their hands and are fine with thousands of nameless animals getting slaughtered/put down for our pleasure but find any suggestion that we humanely destroy a bunch of dogs off putting.

Kind of fascinating anyway.

It is fascinating for sure. Dogs and man are deeply intertwined going back thousands of years. They are man's greatest companions and there is a special bond that we share with them. The pet supply industry is a billion dollar industry for a reason and that's because we love them and they are our best companions.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Pretty much. People trap and kill rodents like mice and voles, or run over a bunny or a gopher without batting an eye, but if it's a dog or cat that's being euthanized, all of a sudden they're up in arms. So basically they've put certain types of animals above another based on personal preference.

Maybe i'm not in the norm but i have never intentionally ran over a rabbit or a squirrel before. Don't most people slow down?

I mean who wants bunny guts on their tires.

[CliffFletcher]

It’s a fun exercise to speculate about what behaviours we find normal today will be regarded with distaste by future generations. I think there’s a high probability pet ownership will be on that list. And I say that as dog owner.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Maybe i'm not in the norm but i have never intentionally ran over a rabbit or a squirrel before. Don't most people slow down?

I mean who wants bunny guts on their tires.

He didn't say people intentionally do that. Just if they do they don't lose any sleep over it.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s a fun exercise to speculate about what behaviours we find normal today will be regarded with distaste by future generations. I think there’s a high probability pet ownership will be on that list. And I say that as dog owner.

I'm not a dog owner, but even I know that dogs and their masters share a special bond. Why would that be looked upon with distaste by future generations? As long as the owner looks after the dog, which most do, it's a beneficial relationship to both sides.

Perhaps future generations will shake their heads that we still allow certain breeds to be bred and sold, but the present generation already feels like that.

I think humans will forever keep dogs for companionship, as will working dogs (police/military, hunting, disability assistance, etc).

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Maybe i'm not in the norm but i have never intentionally ran over a rabbit or a squirrel before. Don't most people slow down?

I mean who wants bunny guts on their tires.

I meant if people saw roadkill, they don't really bat an eye over it. I always try to avoid running over anything, be it a bird, a bunny, or any other rodent, making sure to safely do so of course.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s a fun exercise to speculate about what behaviours we find normal today will be regarded with distaste by future generations. I think there’s a high probability pet ownership will be on that list. And I say that as dog owner.

It's hard to say. Pets can be therapeutic and a lot of single people depend on them for companionship. IMO the pros will always outweigh the cons.

[Misterpants]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's hard to say. Pets can be therapeutic and a lot of single people depend on them for companionship. IMO the pros will always outweigh the cons.

They can get a Boston Dynamics dog.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s a fun exercise to speculate about what behaviours we find normal today will be regarded with distaste by future generations. I think there’s a high probability pet ownership will be on that list. And I say that as dog owner.

First we would have to go no eating meat. That requires a seemless substitute and meat prices increasing significantly so it becomes an activity of the wealthy.

But why would pet ownership become verboten?

The argument needs to be the being would have been better off not existing. So if you make that argument for pets the exact same arguments apply to children.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GGG

First we would have to go no eating meat. That requires a seemless substitute and meat prices increasing significantly so it becomes an activity of the wealthy.

But why would pet ownership become verboten?

The argument needs to be the being would have been better off not existing. So if you make that argument for pets the exact same arguments apply to children.

I think breeding children for the sole purpose of owning them while keeping them in cages once in a while and making them sleep outside is already frowned upon, but I might be wrong.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I'm not a dog owner, but even I know that dogs and their masters share a special bond. Why would that be looked upon with distaste by future generations? As long as the owner looks after the dog, which most do, it's a beneficial relationship to both sides.

Perhaps future generations will shake their heads that we still allow certain breeds to be bred and sold, but the present generation already feels like that.

I think humans will forever keep dogs for companionship, as will working dogs (police/military, hunting, disability assistance, etc).

We domesticated them for a reason. Its kind of hard to turn back the clock on thousands of years of that.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think breeding children for the sole purpose of owning them while keeping them in cages once in a while and making them sleep outside is already frowned upon, but I might be wrong.

Parents instagrams suggest that ownership is the purpose of parenting.

The reason people have kids is purely selfish fulfillment of their desires. Children didn’t ask to exist. Their actions are entirely controlled by parents. We strap them into cages whenever we drive, drop them off at kennels whenever they are inconvenient and then when these people are too old we lock them in a home and wait for them to die.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think breeding children for the sole purpose of owning them while keeping them in cages once in a while and making them sleep outside is already frowned upon, but I might be wrong.

It depends if the Flames game is on or not.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GGG

Parents instagrams suggest that ownership is the purpose of parenting.

The reason people have kids is purely selfish fulfillment of their desires. Children didn’t ask to exist. Their actions are entirely controlled by parents. We strap them into cages whenever we drive, drop them off at kennels whenever they are inconvenient and then when these people are too old we lock them in a home and wait for them to die.

Social services is on their way, GGG.

[Bill Bumface]

I think we all convince ourselves that pet ownership is 2 way, but basically every cat I've owned seemed like it would be happier pissing off into the forest until it got hungry again.

I'm not saying I don't understand pet ownership by any means, as I'm an active participant in it. But taking a step back, it's really weird. Like a bunch of aliens swoop down and throw us in zoos. Sure we're well cared for, and they genuinely may care about us, and eventually we'll get all interbred and ####ed up. Does that mean that you should keep breeding the things just because "that bridge was crossed"?