[PGT] Flames lose game 3 by a score of 4-1

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Hasn't Markstrom had a lower save percentage than the opposing goalie in 9 of 10 games so far?

Save percentage can be an overrated stat. If one goalie gets peppered and the other goalie barely gets any shots it doesn't matter if his save percentage is lower. It's the quality of the goals that matter.

The Oilers aren't giving the Flames the chances the Flames are giving the Oilers which is sad because the Oilers D isn't that good and the Flames should be able to create those chances.

[flylock shox]

Couldn't watch live so had the game on tape delay. Glad I did. Play was so bad in the first I just fast forwarded after the Oilers got their first. Oiler score kept going up - I kept fast forwarding... all the way to the end of the game.

Flames are wasting all their mental energy thinking about stopping McDavid. They can't. They need to play more offence not more defence. They have to keep play in the Oilers zone, which means loosening up the game and playing wide open attacking hockey.

The problem is I think this is anathema to the coaching staff.

But unless Taney makes a miraculous recovery, offence is the only route to winning this series IMO.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

DJS I think you gotta let the Vladar thing go man.

It ain’t happening.

We'll just have to see.

I think Sutter is a man who is unafraid to take necessary risks.

[AC]

Game 4 is huge, likely decides the series IMO.

I already feel like throwing up.

[JohnnyB]

The series isn't over, but I'm glad I didn't watch the third and I'm likely not going to be fussed about watching any more games unless the Flames turn things around. It really wasn't even a fun game to watch, much as the last game was not a fun game to watch.

[Samonadreau]

That second period almost broke me. All those goals were like watching the same goal in different parts of the multiverse. The same goal 4 different ways. Like groundhog day 4 times in 12 minutes

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Save percentage can be an overrated stat. If one goalie gets peppered and the other goalie barely gets any shots it doesn't matter if his save percentage is lower. It's the quality of the goals that matter.

The Oilers aren't giving the Flames the chances the Flames are giving the Oilers which is sad because the Oilers D isn't that good and the Flames should be able to create those chances.

I believe it's the same thing when it comes to Goals Saved Above Expected.
Oettinger and Smith are 1st and 2nd, Markstrom is 9th, which is the lowest out of the goalies remaining.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by AC

Game 4 is huge, likely decides the series IMO.

I already feel like throwing up.

Yup. Didn’t expect this scenario. None of us did.

Maybe it’s just the way. No trophy in sports requires more adversity along the way than the run to the Cup.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Jore

Woodcroft really is a smug little prick

<pakled>I make McDavid go</pakled>

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

The series isn't over, but I'm glad I didn't watch the third and I'm likely not going to be fussed about watching any more games unless the Flames turn things around. It really wasn't even a fun game to watch, much as the last game was not a fun game to watch.

I think you said the same thing in Round 1. It worked before!!

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Jore

He seems best at working the board on the wings and skating north south. He just doesn't have the speed, strength, or manoeuvrability to drive play through the middle. The imbalance/lack of chemistry this causes is a huge reason why the 3rd line, which should be contributing and outscoring Edmonton's depth, is a non-factor so far. I'd love to see Ruzicka but I don't think it's happening. I'd like to see Dube moved to C in his place.

Then I agree, I'd like to see Dube at center as well. For some reason, Dube has been visibly bad this game. He was good last series.

[Steve Macfarlane]

Sutter says the young Flames were intimidated in first game in Edmonton this series.

They definitely looked disorganized.

https://calgaryhockeynow.com/calgary...ane-hat-trick/

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Yup. Didn’t expect this scenario. None of us did.

Maybe it’s just the way. No trophy in sports requires more adversity along the way than the run to the Cup.

Unless you're the Tampa Bay Lightning, three times over and looking at four

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Save percentage can be an overrated stat. If one goalie gets peppered and the other goalie barely gets any shots it doesn't matter if his save percentage is lower. It's the quality of the goals that matter.

The Oilers aren't giving the Flames the chances the Flames are giving the Oilers which is sad because the Oilers D isn't that good and the Flames should be able to create those chances.

I’ve made this argument many times. (Ex. when Vladar faced Tampa and Carolina after the Covid hiatus, and both he and Marky allowed 10 goals total in 2 consecutive starts)

Funny enough, now that people are questioning Markstrom, all of a sudden people seem to get it

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Yup. Didn’t expect this scenario. None of us did.

Maybe it’s just the way. No trophy in sports requires more adversity along the way than the run to the Cup.

I don’t know about y’all, but I definitely didn’t expect this series to be a cake walk. I think that’s a bad mindset to have in the playoffs. I just hope for the best

[browna]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Yup. Didn’t expect this scenario. None of us did.

Maybe it’s just the way. No trophy in sports requires more adversity along the way than the run to the Cup.

Maybe. Two mistakes and a horrendous officiating mistake in the last 10 minutes two nights ago swung a tight game to the Oilers. The refs properly allow the 4-4 goal the series imo is 2-1 to us right now, at least.

Always a game 3 home bump, and the mistakes made by Flames were obvious to allow all those odd man rushes.

Game 4 is critical, but these are the Oilers. And Smith has another shocker coming sooner than later.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Save percentage can be an overrated stat. If one goalie gets peppered and the other goalie barely gets any shots it doesn't matter if his save percentage is lower. It's the quality of the goals that matter.

The Oilers aren't giving the Flames the chances the Flames are giving the Oilers which is sad because the Oilers D isn't that good and the Flames should be able to create those chances.

I agree the Oilers had better chances today, but not at a 4-1 rate. Smith made some big saves and Markstrom did not.

Markstrom has been the second best goalie this entire playoffs with the exception of 1 game against Dallas.

He is dead last in goals saved above expected for starting goalies...Mike Smith is first.

[FlamesAddiction]

I have no faith at this point. They can solve McDavid and the officials.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Jore

Woodcroft really is a smug little prick

Agreed
However
I suppose he will be put in his place when he gets bounced in the second round and is replaced by DeBoer

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Steve Macfarlane

Sutter says the young Flames were intimidated in first game in Edmonton this series.

They definitely looked disorganized.

https://calgaryhockeynow.com/calgary...ane-hat-trick/

Who are these young players?

Is it mainly directed towards Hanifin and Andersson? Kylington? Because heck yeah they’re struggling.

…but then who’s damn idea was it to build the top end of the defence in such a manner and load up money on the 3rd pairing? Paper thin defensive depth, especially against a team that can actually skate.