[PGT] Game 2 curse strikes again

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I kinda did to be honest. I felt we would look much better in Game 2 than we did in the first. Maybe my expectations are too high?

There were always going to be a couple penalty filled games that the oilers would win. That was one of them.

Despite that I did think the oilers were fortunate to not get called in some of the picks in the offensive zone and were fortunate again on some of the even up calls.

I’m not confident that we see a similar game to that again in this series and the Flames still were in the game. A couple bounces and they are up 2 games. Instead it’s tied.

Through two games the Flames have higher corsi, expected goals and high danger chances. I’m hoping that the emotions settle out a touch after those two games and the Flames find their form on the road.


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[indes]

That was an ugly one for the boys in red and even worse for the ones in stripes. Bring on game 3!

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Dawkins

6-4 where the lie...


Anyone that says oilers deserved the win tonight is a troll... the board is worse than reddit

Hogwash. The Oilers speed took over in the third and the Flames paid for not being able to stop it. The Flames simply did not play well enough to win this game.

[powderjunkie]

Will Nurse get a fine for his cheapshot on Coleman after the buzzer?


On the 19-Nurse incident - at some point you just need to work the refs a bit and just call attention to that cheap #### and hope it pays off later (or you get away with your own cheap #### later).

Whereas I have no problem with Mangi jumping to Coleman's aid if the linesman aren't going to get in there.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by sa226

Ita frustrating that the Flames just haven't been very good.

McDavid is dictating the games. Gaudreau, Lindholm, Tkachuk and Markstrom haven't really done a whole heck of a lot.

Markstrom is supposed to be the ace in the hole when the structure breaks down. He has not lived up to his own reputation.

In the regular season Um the first one to trot out "The reffing wasn't very good ,but the Flames didn't deserve to win" In the playoffs, who cares who deserves what, every play counts that can swing the game. The Flames were down by 1 and Toffoli scored on the PP to tie it up. Except the ref somehow lost sight of a puck that he shouldn't have. Like it wasn't even close.

The refs were doing the thing of taking taking the original penalty and then both retaliators. I guess I understand it, but if they actually watched the scrum they'd see who deserved what. They're so scared of influencing the game they inadvertently influence the hell out of it.

You can't tell me that the Oilers deserved 4 more PPs going into the 3rd.

Yeah the Flames weren't very good, but the refs influenced the outcome.

Because Darryl was putting out Backlund, Mangiapane, and Coleman trying to counter McDavid. I personally thought our number one line should have had more minutes.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I kinda did to be honest. I felt we would look much better in Game 2 than we did in the first. Maybe my expectations are too high?

Unless Edmonton’s goaltending goes into the toilet, I think it will be close. We played them four times in the regular season and it was 2-2. Three of those games they scored 5 (2 had ENG’s). McDavid is playing well and the refs are calling lots of penalties.

Calgary is the better team but they have to control the pace and flow of the game. We outscored our issues in game 1 but I don’t think you can expect that in every game.

[Strange Brew]

Huge opportunity lost. Up 2 goals in the second period with a chance to go up two games and for some reason, Flames lose their composure and not other way around.

After two games, Oilers know they can come back from a deficit and feel pretty confident about their ability to score.

Flames have played stretches where they locked the Oilers down 5 on 5 so they have that to fall back on.

Time to start playing Flames hockey.

[Royle9]

Game 3 is huge.

Flames need to show up and shutdown McDip#### and Hyman
More discipline
Pray the refs aren’t against us
Markstrom needs to be better, he seems rattled every time we play EDM
Our top line needs to put in some more work

[Infinit47]

Sutter also needs to get off his high horse about not matching lines, as that is the Oilers primary means of generating offense. They change McDavid on the fly to get the matchups they want. Other team do this in very obvious fashions when facing teams with one dangerous line or player. Sutter won't do it and ai think that plays right into the Oilers hands.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

At 3-1 you have to have your backchecking spidey senses on 11!

No risky pinches. Limit extracurricular stuff.

3-1 is where you play mindful hockey, bide your time and wait for the opponent to take their risks to pounce. Not the other way around.

Playing to run the opponent out of the building 6 or 7-1 was the Flames biggest mistake.

At 3-1 you clog it up, slow it down, lean on guys, hit them, close the gaps on them, stand up at the blue line. Chip pucks deep, cycles your 4 lines.

We invited them into pond hockey round 2 instead of just bloody managing our multi-goal lead.

Team is too goal hungry and offensive-minded at times when they don't need to be. Got greedy, paid for it.

Difficult when at 3-1 you clog it up and the refs give you a penalty, slow it down and the refs give you a penalty, lean on guys and the refs give you a penalty, hit them and the refs give you a penalty, close the gaps on them and the refs give you a penalty, stand up at the blue line and the refs give you a penalty.

[djsFlames]

Between betting ads, refs meddling and subpar broadcasts, my enthusiasm for the games this series has greatly waned.

Hard to believe you can actually screw up the battle of alberta.

If we get some low penalty or consistently/competently called games that don't turn into complete gongshows maybe my interest will get a bump.

Right now... not even excited by this series. It has sucked from a fan and entertainment perspective. Two bad exhibition games so far with none of the qualities you expect from playoffs.

Embarrassing style of hockey made worse by refs drawing penalties out of a hat all night.

Then MGM ads with effing Gretzky educating kids and families on easy two-click ways to gamble your money.

This is garbage, NHL/SN.

[Scary Eloranta]

I’m more depressed today than anything. If this is how the Flames are going to play, combined with the ridiculous reffing, I don’t see how we can win another game.


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[All In Good Time]

Interesting that there were no player pressers for the Flames after the game last night.
Only Sutter.
Seems like it was a real “Do I have your attention now?” moment.

[Flamesfan05]

Yeah, the NHL is becoming a casino or at least horse racing. Betman can’t figure out how to grow the sports other ways?

I turned off audio because the broadcast is full of pro Oilers kissing McDavid’s behind non stop.

The Flame’s didn’t lose because of the refs but their incompetence was on full displayed. What a pathetic league this has become

[calgarygeologist]

Now that I have recovered from the game here is what I saw from the dome:

1. The power play needs to figure out how to be much more successful and effective. The move the puck around well but net front penetration needs work.

2. I feel the Flames are doing a good job at neutralizing McDavid and Leon. Shutting them down completely is asking for a lot but limiting their production is a win. I think we'll see it become even more difficult for the Edmonton stars to get points as the series progresses.

3. Overall the offense and defense are doing what needs to be done to beat the Oilers but Markstrom needs to be better.

[BlindMilwaukee]

^ I'm not saying this is you djsFlames, but for me I'm so annoyed with how the Flames have allowed Edmonton back into these first two games and seem to have abandoned what got them here that every single piece of this series rub me the wrong way.

I can't stand the refs.
I can't stand Ron.
I can't stand the gambling ads.
I can't stand giving up breakaways.
I can't stand Woodcroft.
I can't stand Kane.
I can't stand Ron.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Between betting ads, refs meddling and subpar broadcasts, my enthusiasm for the games this series has greatly waned.

Hard to believe you can actually screw up the battle of alberta.

If we get some low penalty or consistently/competently called games that don't turn into complete gongshows maybe my interest will get a bump.

Right now... not even excited by this series. It has sucked from a fan and entertainment perspective. Two bad exhibition games so far with none of the qualities you expect from playoffs.

Embarrassing style of hockey made worse by refs drawing penalties out of a hat all night.

Then MGM ads with effing Gretzky educating kids and families on easy two-click ways to gamble your money.

This is garbage, NHL/SN.

Its pretty obvious why the games are called the way they are. The league is pushing gambling hard, and the best way to pull in non hardcore gamblers is to offer them name recognition as a reason to bet on a game. If McDavid can single handily win games he will pull in casual gamblers to bet for him.

No Casual gambler is going to get pumped about the Flames strong 5v5 game as a reason to bet(the actual hockey part). But you give them McDavids' name and the fact that he gets NBA rules and you will pull those people in.

It was a huge turnoff to see the NHL bending over backwards to support southern US teams, and now we see a full court press to make the game more suitable for gambling.

Making it very hard to watch.

[dissentowner]

Here is where I think the Flames have really dropped the ball so far this series, Leon Draisaitl. This was a guy coming into the series who could barely skate because of an injury and like I referred to in my pre-series keys they should have been blowing him up and taking it to him physically. Instead they have done the exact opposite, giving him time and space, not crushing him along the boards, not making him pay in front of the net because they have been so focused on McDavid. McDavid is hard to defend and hard to crush, yes they have had a few licks on him which is good but the Oilers have two dynamic forwards and they had the chance to really put a world of hurt on one of them and they haven't. Now he is starting to get more mobile by the day and looked much better last night than the previous two games because he has rested during practices and the Flames have not pressure him physically at all in the series. I don't get why someone like big Z has not blasted him. They just give him all the time and space he wants, so frustrating!

[tvp2003]

Some optimism ahead of game 3: Flames style of play is better suited on the road, need to put on the hard hat and get to work. Running them out of the building on the scoreboard is not the recipe for success and while they were sharper in game 2, there is still lots of room for improvement.

Also, Sutter now has two games of tape on the Oilers. There wasn’t much time to prepare after the Stars series so I expect adjustments based on personnel and how things have been called through two games.

Oilers have two good lines and two AHL lines. Time for Dube/Jarnkrok/Toffoli to make an impact with the matchups they will get. They’re due.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Did anyone else find Woodcrofts after game press conference to be unusually smug? I mean “of course we won” kind of slant?
I thought there was a lot of bulletin board material in there.

To a man I find him incredibly smug, cocky and overconfident veiled in friendly wordiness.