[PGT] Ring-A-Ding-Dong Dandy: Flames win 9-6!

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I was wondering when I saw Sportsnet promoting this what the deal was. Watch some guy watching the game. There must be something I am missing, right?

Nope. Appears to be just some loudmouth shouting overtop of a broadcast and providing zero insight.

I can’t believe this is a thing

It’s an odd YouTube thing, watching folks ‘reacting’ to things and calling it content. It’s super heavy in music as well “FIRST TIME LISTENING TO THE BEATLES REACTION VIDEO!! ZOMG!!”… I don’t get it either.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by foshizzle11

So why did Lucic get a penalty in that play? McDiver touched the puck and then got hit. I don’t get it. Was there a whistle before he got hit??

I was sure I heard the whistle blow as soon as Lucic touched the puck right before the hit. I thought he had got a penalty for his hit on Kane.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

That penalty is only in play. It's clear his helmet was on from that GIF that has been posted 100 times this thread.haha

He lost his helmet somewhere in the ensuing scrum. It's really hard to tell what happened because the ref came skating offscreen from the lower left side with his hand already up.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Crazy game to watch. Flames were dominant for the vast majority of the game, but Markstrom really let the Oilers back into a game where they seriously had no reason to in the game. Markstrom needs to be way better, but the Flames also need to be better is their defensive coverage. McDavid continues to dummy them at will, which is frustrating. I haven't seen a single guy own the Flames like this since Gretzky. They need to find a solution to him. Where is Badger Bob Johnson when you need him??? If the Flames play with the same intensity and flow they displayed in the first 30 minutes, this series will be over shortly. They let McDavid have the freedom he had after that, and this series is going to stretch out and give the Oilers hope.

[Neeper]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

“I used to be part of a dynasty!”

“Sure grandpa… let’s get you home”

Is there a gif of Lucic throwing Kassian down anywhere?


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[hah]

[cannon7]

I was too tough on Dube, CF% of 63.3 suggests he was just unlucky to be -3. Toffoli on the other hand had a CF% of 52.9 and a relative Corsi of -14.1. He has to be better this series.

Zadorov and Gudbranson went from our more reliable d-men in the Dallas series to:

Zadorov CF% 53.7, CRel% -14.2
Gudbranson CF% 48.6, CRel% -20.4

Those two were exposed last night, hope they can figure things out.

The Backlund line was completely dominant, Sutter can't break that trio up anymore.

Kylington's minutes have dropped considerably with Tanev out of the lineup. He's now playing 12 minutes or so. Looks like Sutter doesn't trust him on the ice without Tanev, not that Kylington is giving him much reason to otherwise.

[Robbob]

Weird game. Take the win, but man was it frustrating seeing the Oilers claw their way back to tie it at 6. Flames completely stopped playing their game and I am so glad they were able to get it back late. I guess one of the positives coming out of what should have been a blow out, is that McDavid ended up playing 26 mins and you could see that he was gassed late in the 3rd. Keep playing a heavy game with him and it will take a toll on him.

Regroup and play Flames hockey on Friday.

[cannon7]

Nurse looked bad, but oh man:

CF% 27.7, CRel% -15.0

[stemit14]

Crazy game. Flames did play well… goaltending needs to tighten up and I’m sure it will.

McDavid ended up a -1 for the night which is typical. Just need to be more aware of him on the ice… I thought the backlund line did a great job against him last night. I think if the Lucic line or Dube line are out there against him, they all need to be yelling “Connor! Connor! Connor!” So that all of them are constantly looking for him.

Obviously much easier said than done but he had too much open space at times last night. The tying goal was frustrating because it all happened due to a pick on Andersson by the ref who dropped the puck… unintentional but still frustrating.


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[FlamesAreOne]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

This has to be the dumbest comment from an Oilers fan that I have ever read in an ATL report....just pure comedy


First the BOA hasn't really existed in decades. Games with the Flames for years have been fairly indistinguishable from others. I've never subscribed either that there was a battle with the Flames. In our glory years we usually rolled the Flames. Doesn't battle constitute that there is one?

In these "battles" the Oilers have always had the far more talented team and the Flames have had the lunchbuckets trying to bring hockey down to a primitive level. I never looked forward to series with the Flames, thats giving them too much credit. I looked forward to series against say NYI, Chi, Bos, Philly, more talented clubs than Calgary Flames had and that would actually try to play hockey. My sum experience with Flames series is expecting the worst play and conduct from the Flames and never being disappointed.

For Calgary this is always a battle because its their mountain to climb. Conversely I've never been excited with the Oilers facing the likes of Jim Peplinski, Tim Hunter, and the rabble. Uniformly the Flames, from a hockey standpoint, were always the worst of the teams we would face to watch. I guess people look at it from a drama standpoint. But I enjoy watching clubs other than Calgary. I hate watching the Flames anytime, but this is where we're headed.

I'll put it this way. Been to a ton of games through 50yrs. I love hockey, love playoff hockey. I've never bought a pro ticket in a game involving the Flames and never would. So many other opponents make for better "hockey playing" opponents. The Flames do something else, that I've always deplored. They bring hockey to the alley, always.

This warms my heart.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

This has to be the dumbest comment from an Oilers fan that I have ever read in an ATL report....just pure comedy


First the BOA hasn't really existed in decades. Games with the Flames for years have been fairly indistinguishable from others. I've never subscribed either that there was a battle with the Flames. In our glory years we usually rolled the Flames. Doesn't battle constitute that there is one?

In these "battles" the Oilers have always had the far more talented team and the Flames have had the lunchbuckets trying to bring hockey down to a primitive level. I never looked forward to series with the Flames, thats giving them too much credit. I looked forward to series against say NYI, Chi, Bos, Philly, more talented clubs than Calgary Flames had and that would actually try to play hockey. My sum experience with Flames series is expecting the worst play and conduct from the Flames and never being disappointed.

For Calgary this is always a battle because its their mountain to climb. Conversely I've never been excited with the Oilers facing the likes of Jim Peplinski, Tim Hunter, and the rabble. Uniformly the Flames, from a hockey standpoint, were always the worst of the teams we would face to watch. I guess people look at it from a drama standpoint. But I enjoy watching clubs other than Calgary. I hate watching the Flames anytime, but this is where we're headed.

I'll put it this way. Been to a ton of games through 50yrs. I love hockey, love playoff hockey. I've never bought a pro ticket in a game involving the Flames and never would. So many other opponents make for better "hockey playing" opponents. The Flames do something else, that I've always deplored. They bring hockey to the alley, always.

Link please


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[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I was too tough on Dube, CF% of 63.3 suggests he was just unlucky to be -3. Toffoli on the other hand had a CF% of 52.9 and a relative Corsi of -14.1. He has to be better this series.

Maybe so, but Dube was the one that was absolutely turnstiled by McDavid for I believe their 2nd goal.

Easier said than done, but I don't know why they feel they need to win the puck off of him when he's against the boards, close to the blueline. Just keep him in front of you and don't jump in!


Dube has the skating ability and tenacity where you don't expect that to happen against him that easily, even if it is McDavid. I do expect him and the rest of the Flames to defend him better moving forward!

[standinmotion]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Zadorov and Gudbranson went from our more reliable d-men in the Dallas series to:

Zadorov CF% 53.7, CRel% -14.2
Gudbranson CF% 48.6, CRel% -20.4

Those two were exposed last night, hope they can figure things out.

The Backlund line was completely dominant, Sutter can't break that trio up anymore.

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The Oilers is faster but less physical, so it makes sense that our speedy guys (Backlund line) are doing better than the physical but slower guys(3rd pair)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Brady has been a surprise star of these playoffs:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1527118806996246528

They even showed Walt taking pictures and high fiving fans — just spectacular.

Brady and matt both with hat-tricks last night!

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Kylington's minutes have dropped considerably with Tanev out of the lineup. He's now playing 12 minutes or so. Looks like Sutter doesn't trust him on the ice without Tanev, not that Kylington is giving him much reason to otherwise.

Yeah aside from consistently dominating possession and erasing rushes against.

I’m not gonna pretend he’s perfect defensively, but he is as good as anyone else on the team at driving goal differential.

0.14 expected goals against with him out there yesterday. That’s as close to perfect as you can be.

Would like to see him be more aggressive in the o-zone now that the cross-seam passes are opening up. Lots of opportunities to get pucks down to him at the back door.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by standinmotion

The Oilers is faster but less physical, so it makes sense that our speedy guys (Backlund line) are doing better than the physical but slower guys(3rd pair)

Zadorov was actually #1 on the Flames in TOI last night with 23 minutes, Gudbranson played ~20 minutes. So they're effectively our second pairing at the moment. Sutter may be overplaying them against the faster Oilers roster.

It looked like Sutter was matching Hanifin up against McDavid, which makes sense since only him and Kylington have any real chance of keeping up with him speed wise.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Markstrom needs to be way better, but the Flames also need to be better is their defensive coverage.

On Hyman's second goal I was equally frustrated with both Markstrom and the defensive coverage. He should have never been allowed to come around the net untouched like that.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

This has to be the dumbest comment from an Oilers fan that I have ever read in an ATL report....just pure comedy


First the BOA hasn't really existed in decades. Games with the Flames for years have been fairly indistinguishable from others. I've never subscribed either that there was a battle with the Flames. In our glory years we usually rolled the Flames. Doesn't battle constitute that there is one?

In these "battles" the Oilers have always had the far more talented team and the Flames have had the lunchbuckets trying to bring hockey down to a primitive level. I never looked forward to series with the Flames, thats giving them too much credit. I looked forward to series against say NYI, Chi, Bos, Philly, more talented clubs than Calgary Flames had and that would actually try to play hockey. My sum experience with Flames series is expecting the worst play and conduct from the Flames and never being disappointed.

For Calgary this is always a battle because its their mountain to climb. Conversely I've never been excited with the Oilers facing the likes of Jim Peplinski, Tim Hunter, and the rabble. Uniformly the Flames, from a hockey standpoint, were always the worst of the teams we would face to watch. I guess people look at it from a drama standpoint. But I enjoy watching clubs other than Calgary. I hate watching the Flames anytime, but this is where we're headed.

I'll put it this way. Been to a ton of games through 50yrs. I love hockey, love playoff hockey. I've never bought a pro ticket in a game involving the Flames and never would. So many other opponents make for better "hockey playing" opponents. The Flames do something else, that I've always deplored. They bring hockey to the alley, always.

Yes, in the early 80s, the Oilers rolled the Flames. But by the end of the 80s, these were the two best teams in the league.

The league was smaller then, with 4 divisions. The Flames and Oilers were both in the same division and we played each other 8 times during the regular season...already setting up a fierce battle to advance in the playoffs.

They were both in the Smythe Division so only one of them could get out to advance further. That made games even more intense as it was tough for either team to realize that one of the two top teams would not advance. Those games were REAL battles.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Yeah aside from consistently dominating possession and erasing rushes against.

I’m not gonna pretend he’s perfect defensively, but he is as good as anyone else on the team at driving goal differential.

0.14 expected goals against with him out there yesterday. That’s as close to perfect as you can be.

Would like to see him be more aggressive in the o-zone now that the cross-seam passes are opening up. Lots of opportunities to get pucks down to him at the back door.

Yeah, I think when Sutter no longer has last change, he's going to need to rely more on Kylington's speed to negate McDavid as the Oilers are going to be looking to get away from the Flames' top pair. Might be wise to split up Zadorov and Gudbranson in this series until Tanev is back. Although Stone isn't the fastest skater, either.

Kylington's CF% of 66.7 and CRel% of 4.5 wasn't too bad. But Hanifin, Andersson and Stone all were better. Stone is still putting up excellent possession numbers. Second pair should probably be Zadorov-Stone. But I think Sutter insists on pairing Kylington with a capable vet.