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View Poll Results: Who's first? Ovechkin to score his 800th goal or any other player to score 600?
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Alexander Ovechkin 34 yrs, 159 days
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216 |
83.08% |
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Patrick Marleau 40 yrs, 161 days
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1.92% |
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Sidney Crosby 32 yrs, 200 days
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3.85% |
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Steven Stamkos 30 yrs, 15 days
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0.38% |
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John Tavares 29 yrs, 156 days
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0.38% |
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Nikita Kusherov 26 yrs, 251 days
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David Pasternak 23 yrs, 335 days
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0.38% |
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Connor McDavid 23 yrs, 41 days
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5.38% |
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Leon Draisaitl 24 yrs, 119 days
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2 |
0.77% |
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Auston Matthews 22 yrs, 159 days
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9 |
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04-21-2022, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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With two goals last night Ovi hit 50 on the year. He’s now tied Bossy and Gretzky for the most 50 goal seasons with 9. Does he have another 50 goal season left in him?
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04-21-2022, 10:53 AM
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#282
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
With two goals last night Ovi hit 50 on the year. Hes now tied Bossy and Gretzky for the most 50 goal seasons with 9. Does he have another 50 goal season left in him?
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He got screwed with the two shortened COVID seasons and a lockout season too.
In 12-13 he had 32 in 48 games - that is a pro-rated 55 goal season.
In 19-20 he had 48 in 68 games - so would have easily gotten if COVID didn't shut that season down.
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04-21-2022, 12:23 PM
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#283
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
With two goals last night Ovi hit 50 on the year. Hes now tied Bossy and Gretzky for the most 50 goal seasons with 9. Does he have another 50 goal season left in him?
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Yup.
I didn't he would catch Gretzky but I think he will be the first 1000 goal scorer in NHL history.
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04-21-2022, 12:26 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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With his shot, he could play until he's into his 40s without adding much else.
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04-21-2022, 01:08 PM
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#285
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Gordie Howe was out of the NHL for 6 years. If not, he might have scored more than Wayne.
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04-21-2022, 01:18 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by troutman
Gordie Howe was out of the NHL for 6 years. If not, he might have scored more than Wayne.
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8 years technically having played his last game with the Wings in 71 and then rejoining the league in the 1979-1980 season.
But his last season before retirement (then WHA) was 52 points in 63 games. Even if he averaged 60 points in those 8 years, he would still be quite far from Gretzky.
EDIT: We talking goals, I'm an idiot.
Last edited by OptimalTates; 04-21-2022 at 01:30 PM.
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04-21-2022, 01:22 PM
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I'd be super wary of using Howe's 100 point seasons in the WHA as a basis. Walton went from 47 points in 56 games with the Bruins to leading the WHA with 117 points in 78 games. Lacoix had 11 points in 51 games with the Hawks and then put up 124 points with the WHA Blazers the next season.
EDIT: troutman talking goals, not points, he's probably right. But then maybe Gretzky sticks around longer to pass Howe's goals or comes back after a couple years off if he fixed his back. Howe retired because of his wrist injury, he didn't leave the NHL to go to the WHA.
Last edited by OptimalTates; 04-21-2022 at 01:32 PM.
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04-21-2022, 04:08 PM
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#288
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Howe played 1767 NHL games. How effective would he really have been if he played 600 more?
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11-29-2022, 11:34 PM
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#289
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Just broke the record for road goals. Now 8 behind Howe and 101 behind Gretzky according to the broadcast.
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11-30-2022, 11:21 AM
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#290
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I used to think Gretzky's 894 goals would never be broken but AO just may be able to do it.
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11-30-2022, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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As others have mentioned, it's too bad Ovi had to sit through 2 lockouts and 2 years of Covid affected seasons. We could have been talking about him chasing 1,000 goals at this point of his career rather than just trying to beat Gretzky's record.
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11-30-2022, 12:13 PM
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#292
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yup.
30 from the 04-05 lockout year
22 from the 12-13 lockout
10 from 19-20 Covid year
20 from the 20-21 Covid shortened year
That’s another 82 goals. Really he should be at like 875 goals right now and on pace to pass Gretzky this season, and likely to have 1000+ for his career
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11-30-2022, 12:19 PM
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Conservative numbers. He scored 52 his rookie year. Easily woulda had 40+ if they played in 2005.
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11-30-2022, 02:05 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Windy City
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Have we got to the point now where we can say Ovi is the greatest goal scorer even before he catches Gretzky?
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11-30-2022, 02:07 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Conservative numbers. He scored 52 his rookie year. Easily woulda had 40+ if they played in 2005.
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Depending on whether they played it with pre or post-lockout rules.
41 goals led the league in 2003-04. 40 goals was 10th overall in 2005-06.
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11-30-2022, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brocoli
Have we got to the point now where we can say Ovi is the greatest goal scorer even before he catches Gretzky?
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I have, its way harder to score now
This is a real picture from the 80s
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Last edited by dino7c; 11-30-2022 at 02:13 PM.
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11-30-2022, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brocoli
Have we got to the point now where we can say Ovi is the greatest goal scorer even before he catches Gretzky?
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Yes. No question in my opinion.
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11-30-2022, 02:12 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Yup.
30 from the 04-05 lockout year
22 from the 12-13 lockout
10 from 19-20 Covid year
20 from the 20-21 Covid shortened year
Thats another 82 goals. Really he should be at like 875 goals right now and on pace to pass Gretzky this season, and likely to have 1000+ for his career
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Also, if he had been born 2 days earlier, he would have been draft eligible a year earlier and that could have meant another 30+.
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11-30-2022, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
I have, its way harder to score now
This is a real picture from the 80s
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Add to that, using the era adjusted scoring, Gretzky probably benefited an extra 150 goals playing in that era.
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11-30-2022, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Also, if he had been born 2 days earlier, he would have been draft eligible a year earlier and that could have meant another 30+.
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Wasn't it closer to 1 day. I recall a story that the late Roger Nielson tried to make an argument based on leap years to try and draft him the year before.
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